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To: flevit
A hypothetical first cause, invoking it well past the first effect to the detriment of the actual causes of all subsequent effects, and screeching at science for daring to fill in the beloved gaps.

I have to say again that Dawkins nailed it, and it's utterly damning. It's why I tend to call ID the UNscience. It's about undoing--sabotaging-- someone else's hard work at discovery. It's an active tearing down of knowledge, a sweeping under the rug of evidence. "Luddite" isn't too strong a word at all.

29 posted on 05/25/2005 5:59:25 AM PDT by VadeRetro ( Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro

call it what you want, impressive way to rationalize away importance of a first cause.





45 posted on 05/25/2005 6:21:19 AM PDT by flevit
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To: VadeRetro

but I doubt you are so cavalier when YOU are the (seemingly) first cause of something. I bet you enjoy being complemented on your hard work.


48 posted on 05/25/2005 6:25:11 AM PDT by flevit
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To: VadeRetro
I have to say again that Dawkins nailed it, and it's utterly damning. It's why I tend to call ID the UNscience. It's about undoing--sabotaging-- someone else's hard work at discovery. It's an active tearing down of knowledge, a sweeping under the rug of evidence. "Luddite" isn't too strong a word at all.

Yep.

59 posted on 05/25/2005 6:46:57 AM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: VadeRetro
"Luddite" isn't too strong a word at all.

The problem is that Luddite isn't strong enough. Creationism/ID works at tearing down the foundations of science as diligently and as cunningly as the ACLU works to undermine the foundations of the US. One day they'll wake up and discover -- to their mutual surprise -- that they're both on the same team.

And as for your tagline, which I've quoted often (Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.) I don't thing that's strong enough either. Creationism is a cancer on Western Civilization.

60 posted on 05/25/2005 6:49:09 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: VadeRetro

"I tend to call ID the UNscience.


I prefer "NON-science", which if you say it quickily comes out "Nonsense".


88 posted on 05/25/2005 7:15:06 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: VadeRetro
[I have to say again that Dawkins nailed it, and it's utterly damning. It's why I tend to call ID the UNscience. It's about undoing--sabotaging-- someone else's hard work at discovery. It's an active tearing down of knowledge, a sweeping under the rug of evidence. "Luddite" isn't too strong a word at all.]

Science and archeology have always and will always continue to validate the Holy Bible(and only the Holy Bible) creationist account in spite of the lies of those who hate God and HIS Christ; revisionist history and science are the creation of Satan and those who refuse the witness of God and science and history. These fools are also the same one's who believe in global warming
and evolution and other myths created by babbling crybaby's.
1,479 posted on 05/28/2005 6:37:32 AM PDT by wgeorge2001 (And the Lord shall be King over all the earth;in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.)
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