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To: dread78645
Some of those contained the (then) new translations of the 1945 Nag Hammandi texts.

Well, then, the question must arise, who translated the text. Agendas are everywhere. Were the translators christian, or Jewish, Islamic or athiest? It would help to know. The Dead Sea scrolls are under the control of one group of people, who release very little of what they know. You have to be wondering why.

1,782 posted on 05/29/2005 5:42:51 AM PDT by bluepistolero
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To: bluepistolero
The Dead Sea scrolls are under the control of one group of people, who release very little of what they know. You have to be wondering why.

Methinks they've run across evidence speaking against the divinity of Jesus. That alone would ruin any number of agendas if it leaked out.

1,784 posted on 05/29/2005 5:55:31 AM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: bluepistolero
Well, then, the question must arise, who translated the text. Agendas are everywhere. Were the translators christian, or Jewish, Islamic or athiest? It would help to know.

Certainly. The Nag Hammandi find is in the possession of the Coptic museum in Cairo. While various scholars held up publication so they might get their works published first, the UNESCO was able to persuade the Egyptian Department of Antiquities to release facsimilie images of the texts around 1972. Since then Egypt has allowed researchers from all over the world to view the find, and released research photographs in the mid-80s.
Although Jews were forbidden to travel in Egypt until after 1978 peace treaty, the Nag Hammandi texts seems to contain little to interest them. Or if it did, then the images are available.
Multiple translations have been made in several languages and interesting books like the 'Gospel of Thomas' have 10 translations, and if you can read Coptic you can do it yourself.
Or maybe you'd just like to sing along?

The Dead Sea scrolls are under the control of one group of people, who release very little of what they know. You have to be wondering why.

The translations of the 1st and 11th cave were released between 1951 & 1956 by the Israeli Commission -- that's rather fast considering that they had to fight a war of independence in 1948 and found a nation. The contents Cave 4 were housed at the Palestine Archaeological Museum under control of archenemy Jordan. A Catholic cleric, Pere de Vaux was in charge of (rather inept) scholarship team. Instead of getting to work on translating the material the de Vaux team busied themselves with trying to prove a pet hypothesis that the Scrolls were the work of a small group of Jewish extremists, the Essenes; and that that group had friendly ties to the nascent Christians. While they were occupied with defending their theory the refused access to their cache of material.
After the victory in the 1967 war, the museum (renamed Rockefeller) came under Israeli control but the de Vaux team remained in charge. In 1991 the US Huntington Library gives access to "qualified scholars" to ciew it's microfilm collection bequeath by Elizabeth Bechtel in 1980. She had financed a -photographing of the scrolls & had a microfilm copy of the project made for herself.
In response the Israeli department of Antiquities announces that it will grant access to official photos of the scrolls to scholars who agree not to publish their findings. A month later the scroll project director, E. Tov, announces lifting of all publication restrictions, allowing any scholar to examine the official scroll photos & publish whatever was discovered.

1,885 posted on 05/30/2005 3:06:25 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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