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To: PatrickHenry

I didn't read that far. Interesting. (Darwin does have this passage in one of his books, probably an introduction.)

I did find another translation where Aristotle did ascribe rain to Zeus. I don't know what the Greek version says (or if there are several.)

Aristotle is better at question than answers (a quality of being early.) He also thought the brain was designed to cool the blood but others though it was the seat of thought. In many cases, Aristotle was right.


1,329 posted on 05/27/2005 1:36:57 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
He also thought the brain was designed to cool the blood but others though it was the seat of thought. In many cases, Aristotle was right.
When debating creationists my brain often have to cool down the blood my heart has heated to boiling.
1,331 posted on 05/27/2005 1:49:37 PM PDT by anguish (while science catches up.... mysticism!)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Darwin does have this passage in one of his books, probably an introduction.

Yes. This is from the introduction to the 6th (final) edition of Origin of Species:

I WILL here give a brief sketch of the progress of opinion on the Origin of Species. Until recently the great majority of naturalists believed that species were immutable productions, and had been separately created. This view has been ably maintained by many authors. Some few naturalists, on the other hand, have believed that species undergo modification, and that the existing forms of life are the descendants by true generation of pre-existing forms. Passing over allusions to the subject in the classical writers* the first author who in modern times has treated it in a scientific spirit was Buffon.
That asterisk leads to a footnote, as follows:
Aristotle, in his 'Physicae Auscultationes' (lib. 2, cap. 8, s. 2), after remarking that rain does not fall in order to make the corn grow, any more than it falls to spoil the farmer's corn when threshed out of doors, applies the same argument to organization: and adds (as translated by Mr. Clair Grece, who first pointed out the passage to me), "So what hinders the different parts [of the body] from having this merely accidental relation in nature? as the teeth, for example, grow by necessity, the front ones sharp, adapted for dividing, and the grinders flat, and serviceable for masticating the food; since they were not made for the sake of this, but it was the result of accident. And in like manner as to the other parts in which there appears to exist an adaptation to an end. Wheresoever, therefore, all things together (that is all the parts of one whole) happened like as if they were made for the sake of something, these were preserved, having been appropriately constituted by an internal spontaneity, and whatsoever things were not thus constituted, perished, and still perish. We here see the principle of natural selection shadowed forth, but how little Aristotle fully comprehended the principle, is shown by his remarks on the formation of the teeth.

1,332 posted on 05/27/2005 1:49:59 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Aristotle also thought plants were not alive because they had no souls.

A giant in philosophy, but pretty awful in biology.


1,358 posted on 05/27/2005 4:41:48 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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