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The NewsHour ^ | May 24, 2005 | NewsHour

Posted on 05/24/2005 7:01:47 PM PDT by Evolution

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Any Freeper, Conservative or Republican who thinks this is a good compromise is out of their mind and needs to stop drinking the RINO Kool Aid.

The GOP gave up their option to use the constitutional option, and gave the Dems the right to demand that Bush consults with THEM FIRST!

So we got only 3 conservatives on the court at the price of giving up on ALL OTHER JUDGES including SCOTUS nominees.

You know that those 7 RINO traitors will never go along with the constitutional option and have basically made Harry Reid the new Majority leader of the Senate.

1 posted on 05/24/2005 7:01:48 PM PDT by Evolution
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To: Evolution

"Kool" down...

Expect some great surprises from Frist on the floor tomorrow... its already known in the press he's gonna challenge this. The show ain't over until the Hillary sings.


2 posted on 05/24/2005 7:05:28 PM PDT by USAfearsnobody
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To: Evolution

Great Post!
We got hosed by McLunatic! get on the phone and call!! I did today and I happily report to being very "discordant"!!


3 posted on 05/24/2005 7:06:02 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: Evolution

I don't recall President Bush signing on to this agreement.


4 posted on 05/24/2005 7:06:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Evolution

Schumer is such a putz.


5 posted on 05/24/2005 7:06:34 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (June 14 - Defeat (Pat) DeWine - Vote Tom Brinkman for Congress (OH-2) - http://www.gobrinkman.com)
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To: Evolution
Although i think that this compromise is a disaster I do think that "gave the Dems the right to demand that Bush consults with THEM FIRST!" is a bit over the top.
I predict that that question WILL be determined in the Supreme Court
6 posted on 05/24/2005 7:07:32 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Evolution
You know that those 7 RINO traitors will never go along with the constitutional option and have basically made Harry Reid the new Majority leader of the Senate

I agree that they are indeed traitors, but I disagree that they will not support the constitutional option if the Democrats renege on the agreement. I should say WHEN the Democrats renege, becasue it is only a matter of time.

7 posted on 05/24/2005 7:09:33 PM PDT by John Valentine (Whoop dee doo)
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To: Evolution

Its not dead because Schumer says it dead.

Graham and DeWine will leave the agreement if the Democrats filibuster a well qualified nominee.


8 posted on 05/24/2005 7:09:33 PM PDT by RWR8189 (I Will Sit on My Hands in 2008 Instead of Voting for McCain)(No Money for the NRSC)
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To: Evolution

Perhaps you didn't read the penultimate paragraph.


9 posted on 05/24/2005 7:10:19 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Evolution
Any Freeper, Conservative or Republican

I like the way you think.

10 posted on 05/24/2005 7:10:44 PM PDT by glock rocks (1-800-marrow2)
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To: RWR8189

let us know when that happens. even if it does, watch two others take their place.


11 posted on 05/24/2005 7:11:30 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: RWR8189

Graham will do what Graham thinks is good for Graham.


12 posted on 05/24/2005 7:11:34 PM PDT by glock rocks (1-800-marrow2)
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To: acapesket; PhiKapMom; LS; devolve; MeekOneGOP

After two weeks of busy signals, I reached the office of Senator John McCain, Democrat from the Dark Side, today.

The male staffer listened courteously and patiently while I gave him the long version.

In sum, we will never support the presidential aspirations of this psychopathic traitor.

Now to fax further words of encouragement to Frist and Allen.

13 posted on 05/24/2005 7:13:26 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Evolution
Given that the agreement exists, I don't think the GOP should view it as 7 traitors. I think, the GOP's best chance is to think of it as 2 traitors. Go to the weakest links, and break 2 away- Pressure, offers, whatever it takes- but taking 2 away from the agreement gets us back the nuclear option.
Are any of the 7 up for reelection in 2006?
14 posted on 05/24/2005 7:14:32 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: Evolution
The GOP gave up their option to use the constitutional option, and gave the Dems the right to demand that Bush consults with THEM FIRST!

Foolishness! - My God, because Harry Reid and Chuck-boy say this is so....you think it is so??? - It is not! - If the DEM's filibuster a SCOUTS nominee....you just watch how quickly the Nuclear option will come back out!!

The DEM's are just trying to position themselves as if they are warning GWB to not nominate a true conservative...they are hoping to push his hand....But it won't work!!

And when GWB nominates a judge for the SCOUT...he WILL be confirmed!!.

So it is you that needs to cowboy up and stop drinking the crying kool-aid!!

My God, on the whole the Nation is by far heading in a better direction under GWB (and from the GOP leadership in the Congress).

We are going to get all but two of our held up judges confirmed...AND GWB will get his SCOUT nominee's confirmed!!...so just settle down!....Rove and GWB have it all under control.

15 posted on 05/24/2005 7:15:43 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix
I will believe it when I see it.

I have been waiting over 4 years and have yet to see the GOP act the way they should act, and time is running out.

16 posted on 05/24/2005 7:17:43 PM PDT by Evolution (Tolerance!? We don't need no stinking Tolerance ! ! !)
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To: Evolution
Your PBS article now a couple from Senator Frist that were posted on a thread earlier....


To: Bigun
I just copied the following directly form Senator Frist's website. Thought you might enjoy reading it.

May 24th, 2005

"Mr. President, though I am not a party to the memorandum of understanding signed last night by 14 of my colleagues, I have had the opportunity to further review the agreement in more detail. I believe the memorandum of understanding makes modest progress, but falls far short, of guaranteeing up or down votes on judicial nominees. It needs to be carefully monitored and executed in good faith.

Let me briefly share my thoughts on the understanding reached last night and my expectations going forward.

First, the memorandum of understanding begins to break the partisan obstruction of the past two years and guarantee fair up or down votes on several judicial nominees. Priscilla Owen, Janice Rogers Brown, and William Pryor all will receive the courtesy and fairness of up or down votes. I will continue to fight for other qualified nominees who have been waiting for votes and deserve the same courtesy and fairness.

Second, the agreement, if followed in good faith, will make filibusters of judicial nominees in the future, including Supreme Court nominees, almost impossible.

Third, let me be very clear: the Constitutional option remains on the table. I will not hesitate to use it if necessary. It has been and continues to be a last resort. My goal is restoring the principle of fair up or down votes on judicial nominees. However, if the minority again acts in bad faith – if they resume their campaign of routine judicial obstruction – I will ask all 100 senators to decide whether judicial nominees deserve fair up-or-down votes.

So let us begin today to execute this memorandum of understanding. This afternoon, I expect the Senate to confirm Priscilla Owen and by the end of the week to process Janice Rogers Brown and William Pryor. We will work with the Minority Leader, the Judiciary Committee and other Senators to move forward expeditiously on other nominees, including those from the Sixth Circuit and Tom Griffith.

This has been a very significant debate. By exposing the injustice of judicial obstruction in the last Congress, we have made progress on restoring a core Constitutional principle: all judicial nominees deserve fair up or down votes. I hope that progress continues."

25 posted on 05/24/2005 3:46:45 PM CDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)


To: Raycpa; All

Just arrived in my email from Bill Frist's office:

____________________________________________________

As promised, an update on the judicial nominee front ...

Last night, an arrangement was reached by fourteen of my colleagues. I was not a party to it, and here's why...

I do not agree with it because it does not get the job done of ensuring fair, up or down votes on all judicial nominees sent to the Senate by the President.

It is my firm belief that--on principle--all judicial nominees deserve an up or down vote on the floor of the United States Senate.

The new understanding, if followed in good faith, affirms my principle to some extent. It marks some break in the partisan obstruction of the past two years, and ensures that seven outstanding jurists-including Priscilla Owen, Janice Rogers Brown and William Pryor--will get the fair up or down votes they have long deserved.

But it does not grant fairness to all other jurists. It still allows mindless filibusters to be triggered at the whim of a minority more interested in obstruction than progress.

And that is a shame.

So make no mistake, the Constitutional Option remains on the table. If the minority again acts in bad faith--if they resume their campaign of mindless judicial obstruction--I will NOT hesitate to call it to a vote.

Not for a second.

For too long on judicial nominees, the filibuster was abused to facilitate partisanship, and subvert principle.

We have exposed the injustice of judicial obstruction in the last Congress, and advanced the core Constitutional principle that all judicial nominees deserve a fair up or down vote on the floor of the U.S. Senate.

So the Senate will begin to execute this arrangement, with a vote up or down on Priscilla Owen. Giving up their minority-party led obstructionism, the Senate invoked cloture on her today by a vote of 81-18. Priscilla Owen--after four years, two weeks and two days--will finally receive the fair, up or down vote she deserves.

And, mark my words, more judges like her will follow in the days ahead. I hope the minority will respect the will of the majority, and give judges the courtesy, the respect, of a fair, up or down vote.

Bill Frist

1,903 posted on 05/24/2005 3:57:44 PM CDT by EllaMinnow

17 posted on 05/24/2005 7:19:14 PM PDT by deport (Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue....)
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These people are in absolute hysterics, and there is little use in reasoning with them.

What part of "face saving gesture" do they not understand? The Republican 7 Agreed No Nukes so long as the Dem 7 do not filibuster. It is a de facto nuke option.

Lindsey Graham has made that quite clear, but Freepers would rather believe Schumer's spin - it fits in with their desire to be "victims".


18 posted on 05/24/2005 7:19:27 PM PDT by ambrose (NEWSWEAK LIED .... AND PEOPLE DIED)
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To: RWR8189
What is a well qualified nominee?

According to the deal that is up to each individual senator.

So according to the Dems and RINOS that means no Conservatives!

19 posted on 05/24/2005 7:19:51 PM PDT by Evolution (Tolerance!? We don't need no stinking Tolerance ! ! !)
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To: glock rocks
Ditto........ someone clearly pissed in the polidiot gene pool ........gonna be an interesting week to see who blinks swallows first.
20 posted on 05/24/2005 7:20:51 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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