[Dog Gone]

I'm still not convinced that this wasn't a legislative defeat for the RATS. Without this deal, the vote on cloture today probably would have been no different from previous attempts.

We're all wringing our hands, pointing fingers, withholding donations to the RNC, yet the judicial confirmations are starting to proceed.

We'll just have to see if the Democrats will raise the "extreme circumstances" argument. They might not.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Here is some good work by a freeper trying to chase down the possibilities:

THe agreement of the band of 14 is between each other. But it pledges them to vote certain ways in certain circumstances.

[kabar]

I'm still not convinced that this wasn't a legislative defeat for the RATS. Without this deal, the vote on cloture today probably would have been no different from previous attempts.

Without this deal, we could have exercised the constitutional option and not had this problem in the future for all judicial nominees. Then cloture would be 51 votes and not the current 60.

[jwalsh07]

We'll just have to see if the Democrats will raise the "extreme circumstances" argument. They might not.

Wanna bet?

[mtntop3]

I'm still not convinced that this wasn't a legislative defeat for the RATS. Without this deal, the vote on cloture today probably would have been no different from previous attempts.

We're all wringing our hands, pointing fingers, withholding donations to the RNC, yet the judicial confirmations are starting to proceed.

We'd better hurry to cut off our noses to spite our faces before good things happen.