[Delphinium]

I know some that attend church every Sunday, even in leadership positions, but claim it's no bigger because as a believer they have grace.

We have a few of those in our church too, and I question whether or not they are "true" Christians. They might be committed to religion, but if they we born again, and were dedicated to Christ their hearts would be changed.

"You shall know them by their fruit"

[joesbucks]

I think the modern church has fumbled the ball with the notion of grace. I'm beginning to wander if grace really doesn't mean you can lose your salvation, but grace always allows you to return.