[King Prout]

Even for an occassional drink, if there is a desire for it it leads to a want, then a permanent need... All progressive. and as I have stated before, it does matter on your ability to control yourself, there are those that cannot and dive head first into the arena, then there are those that are thinking they a mature enough to handle it then end up like the "frog in the pot"...

what a load of crap. How about listing among your categories "those who think they can handle it, and decades of moderate indulgence bears that assessment out."

I have indulged in alcohol since the age of sixteen. I never got hammered until my first year in college. I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN HAMMERED AFTER MY FIRST YEAR IN COLLEGE. Since that time, I have exercised enjoyable moderation. SIXTEEN YEARS of moderate enjoyment. True for one "vice" - true for others as well.

your all-or-nothing arguments are patently absurd.

[Zavien Doombringer]

Hey King,

Me'Lord has it all wrong. I never said all or nothing.

In fact I never said "thou shalt not..." I do not care what one does in private.