What the ‘Average Joe’ Can Do About Porn…and Why - (caution; for adult readers only)

CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA.ORG ^ | MAY 24, 2005 | SARA BRODE

[chris1]

Thank you. For your information - and that of the nut job we are responding to, the first time I ever went into an adult store was at the behest of my significant other, not the other way around. SURPRISE! Because it is mutual, it is not a big thing with either of us. She is confident, BY MY ACTIONS TOWARDS HER, that my devotion is to her in every way.

Why can't some of you get that through your thick heads?

I also like watching UFC and Mixed Martial Arts - oh I guess these holier than thou wack jobs think that should be banned to?

Give me a break.

[Zavien Doombringer]

I suppose, in some degree. But I am correct that him viewing porn isn't exaclty what the wedding vows had in mind. Viewing other people having sex, is putting a desire for the person to be in the act. Hence Peewee Herman and a rubber raincoat.

That robs the attention the wife deserves.

You are right, I don't know him, he doesn't know me, but porn has the same initial effect on all relationships. Sure, he says his wife enjoys him watching. I have seen too many relationships go down the tubes because of it. NO matter how much is watched. and yes, I am a Marriage Counselor

[tacticalogic]

another good point, also probably in vain.

Probably. I'm willing to bet the people who think it's perfectly reasonble to base a discussion on pornography around Jeffrey Dahmer would consider it a cheap shot to bring Jim Jones up in a discussion about religion.

[AntiGuv]

I am beginning to think your efforts, mine, and those of others are doomed to be in vain.

Probably no doubt! I mainly just think that sexual repression is quite harmful of its own accord, and that's why I'm debating here today. Sexual abandon can be quite harmful as well, but that's an altogether separate topic. I sure don't think people should just let it all hang out nor do I ascribe to an 'anything goes' hedonism, but I think that our society has a very unhealthy relationship with sexuality (that applies to most modern societies).

is there a term for someone "addicted to" logical fallacy?

And, above all else, irrational argument really chafes my hide!

[King Prout]

yomank!

[Bluchers Elephant]

Its possible that he believes that everybody who wants porn outlawed because it is immoral is the "Christian Taliban" which is, of cause, not true. There are other, better, reasons for wanting porn outlawed than "God says looking at naked women is wrong". They're not good enough that I see them as reasons for curtailing free speech rights, but there are large problems in the sex industry. Few people within the sex industry are willing to acknowledge and deal with these issues in public because anytime they say, "yes there are/have been drug addicts working in porn to ear their fix" or something of that ilk, a small number of politicians will attempt to help with industry regulation and a far larger number will start up with "see, we told you porn was bad, now lets make some more obscenity laws".

[Central Scrutiniser]

What can the average Joe do about porn? Whatever he wants, he is a grown up and can make decisions for himself.

Unless he is a little nanny that has to pry into everyone else's lives and be the moral arbiter for all.

sheeesh, another crazy day eh?

[Melas]

If these folks truly believed porn *isn't* wrong they'd have no problem "enjoying" it in front of their children and grandchildren.

Ummmm....I think sex is a wonderful, wonderful thing, yet I would never enage in it in front of my children. There isn't room here to list the acts that I enjoy with my wife that I wouldn't even do within earshot of the children. Just because you wouldn't do something in front of children, doesn't make it wrong or ugly. It just makes it adult and/or private.

[King Prout]

it is galling, yes.

[chris1]

For your info - I compete in bobybuilding, am in tip top physical shape. You know nothing about my life, and I am talking to you about what goes on in a normal guys head.

If you think a guy really wants to hear about how his mother is not nice enough to his wife, someone is lying to you terribly.

[Zavien Doombringer]

and that of the nut job we are responding to,

I guess I am a nut job.. 4 kids married to the same wife for over 20 years...never been arrested or had a speeding ticket. Had my share of porn and booze...

I guess I never learned. I just don't know anything

[Freebird Forever]

NO one that I know of is getting killed for not converting, or the women having to cover themselves....

And some are now raising their voices preemptively to insure that it never does.

As I've previously stated on this thread, believe as you wish but don't expect everyone to fall in lockstep behind you.

they aren't working for the Lord, but actually driving people away from Him.

Bingo!

The same holds true for a narrow group of Bible thumpers in the Republican party.

[Robert_Paulson2]

"Know any Christians who have executed women for walking out the front door without a male escort? "

---

Known any Christian women who WISH they could execute, fire, arrest or jail the one in the miniskirt and tank top who their husband or boyfriend 'noticed' today?

yup.
All the time, and all in the name of a false christian morality and alleged combatting of 'indecency' and 'sexual immorality' in the public marketplace, which the religious right WANTS to control and own.

Literally HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of 'em.

And this concerned women group.. is rife with them.
Every body knows it.
rofl.

[Zavien Doombringer]

for one,I don't expect anyone to follow me...

I don't listen to those that rant and rave or act like they have to fight for God...

I say what is right and I leave it up to the listener to do what ever, "shaking the sand" so to speak. I do not argue about the Bible, I didn't write it, any one who doesn't agree, take it up with the one who dictated it....

[Robert_Paulson2]

One
Who
Knows

[Rightly Biased]

Well Said Z.D.

[Melas]

I can't be Satan. However, I was married to her for a short period of time in my early 20's. You'll be able to read it in my memoirs under the chapter: Don't marry the Goth girl.

[Antonello]

If you want to exclude others from a conversation in a post, you might want to consider making a private reply, then. See? I just jumped on your response to someone else. If you had sent it privately, then I couldn't have done that.

[Melas]

Well, it seems to me that you're just getting way to personal. Obviously you don't agree. We'll just have to leave it at that.

[Zavien Doombringer]

Whew, thank you! I needed that!