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To: neverdem

As a woman, and as a particularly NON-competitive woman, I think most women are into cooperation, which is generally how women treat each other and work together. Men compete and women cooperate. There are always exceptions but I think the general tendencies are there. I just wish society would value more highly the things that women ARE good at, such as taking care of people, rather than manipulating things and systems.


4 posted on 05/24/2005 12:52:29 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: blueblazes

"I just wish society would value more highly the things that women ARE good at, such as taking care of people, rather than manipulating things and systems."

Heh, I've seen quite a few men here on FR who would probably argue that women are masters at manipulating.


6 posted on 05/24/2005 12:55:09 PM PDT by Chiapet (Chthulu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: blueblazes
I just wish society would value more highly the things that women ARE good at, such as taking care of people, rather than manipulating things and systems.

I am glad you didn't list "driving".

And women don't manipulate things? Your kidding right?

9 posted on 05/24/2005 12:56:10 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: blueblazes

I think that society DOES value what you mention. Look at the high pay that doctors get. Also, although many teachers complain of low pay, they receive high psychic income, as well as schedule that allows for more free time than most other professions.


10 posted on 05/24/2005 12:57:05 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: blueblazes

Hmmm...

Then why are women universally more vicious towards each other than men are to other men?


14 posted on 05/24/2005 12:59:55 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: blueblazes

"As a woman, and as a particularly NON-competitive woman, I think most women are into cooperation, which is generally how women treat each other and work together. Men compete and women cooperate. There are always exceptions but I think the general tendencies are there. I just wish society would value more highly the things that women ARE good at, such as taking care of people, rather than manipulating things and systems."

I don't know if you have ever been involved in a team atmosphere with a bunch of women but it seems to me they are generally much less cooperative, and more backstabing then men. Males will certainly compete and hash out who the alpha male is, but once the pecking order is determined they generally do what is best for the team. Whereas it appears to me that women continually undermine each other.


15 posted on 05/24/2005 1:01:09 PM PDT by shoffma1999
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To: blueblazes

>>I think most women are into cooperation<<

I disagree. Women can be the most uncooperative, especially when they don't feel they've been emotionally rewarded. As you said, there are always exceptions.


18 posted on 05/24/2005 1:02:23 PM PDT by 1L
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To: blueblazes

Women derive their value/self worth from the quality of their relationships.. men derive their value from accomplishing goals...

Its just a general psychological difference between the sexes, and its well documented.


82 posted on 05/24/2005 1:35:53 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: blueblazes
As a woman, and as a particularly NON-competitive woman, I think most women are into cooperation, which is generally how women treat each other and work together. Men compete and women cooperate. There are always exceptions but I think the general tendencies are there. I just wish society would value more highly the things that women ARE good at, such as taking care of people, rather than manipulating things and systems.

There was a show on TV that was for the most part, a pretty bad show, where it had the bosses of two completely different compaines trade places for a time, and see what happened. One of the bosses was ths MCP (male chauvenist pig) owner of a performance car dealership, and the other was the owner of some sort of an advertising firm (I think... I'm not 100% sure what they did). This owner was a woman, and all her employees were women.

The car dealership had all men, and the environment was terribly competative. The ad agency was completely NON-competative, and the employees pretty much came and went as they felt. They even had weekly massages. At both businesses, there was a huge amount of distrust and animosity over the new "rules" as layed down by the new bosses.

The woman tried to make the car dealership a nicer place. The man tried to introduce competition. Interestingly enough, when the guy toned it down a bit, the women started to compete, and sales went way up, as did how much money the women were making. That drove them to sell even more, and sales and profits went through the roof.

When the show ended, you saw the car dealership going back to the way it was before the show started. However, the ad agency kept the competition, and the even hired a guy!

Mark

135 posted on 05/24/2005 2:13:04 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: blueblazes

No risk, no gain. Capitalism rewards (and punishes) risk, with its highest payout. Makes sense though, doesent it?


142 posted on 05/24/2005 2:19:43 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: blueblazes

As a homeschooler, we have what we call the Madonna principle. Madonna's product is essentially worthless, and the product of say an ER nurse is absolutely vital. However, the market is such that Madonna can sell her product to several million people a year, and the ER nurse, while more valuable, can only sell her product to several hundred to a couple thousand people a year. It's not that we value Madonna more, it's that her market is such that even at next to no value, it makes her gazillions.


145 posted on 05/24/2005 2:22:59 PM PDT by Melas
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To: blueblazes
One thing that this article totally missed is that men and women think differently. Men are pretty much guided by principal. Women, on the other hand, will suspend the rules and look at things like who gets hurt and who will be affected. If you were to go too far in either direction. With men you would end up with the excesses of Nuremberg. In an extreme female run society women would be killing their babies. What society needs is a combination of both men and women together running things so that neither excess will be realized.
168 posted on 05/24/2005 4:26:13 PM PDT by peter the great
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