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To: Vicomte13
Frist can kill this deal right now.

We never thought it would get to this point but it did. It is difficult to now believe that Frist will do right by the Constitution. The demos are much better fighters than the Reps. The Reps are a bunch of sissy's. McCain should be expelled from the Party. He is a traitor to this Republic. He is a vile and sick man. I wish I could laugh in his face and tell him that, HE WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT of this Republic.

27 posted on 05/24/2005 12:36:33 PM PDT by liberty2004
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To: liberty2004

Yes, it got to this point.

Obviously McCain is trouble, but he's just one Senator.
I keep raising this point because I think it's crucial.
The two Senators from Maine and Lincoln Chafee are liberal Republicans. That's what they are, and there's no point grousing about it. Rhode Island isn't going to elect a conservative anyhow, so in New England you take what you can get. Better to have three liberal New England Republicans adding to the GOP caucus than having three liberal Democrats adding to the Democratic Caucus. No point in punishing the three New England Senators for being liberals. They don't pretend in their campaigns to be conservatives, so when they agree to the deal, it's not surprising nor particularly offensive.
McCain's position is offensive.

But that's only FOUR, which means that Republicans STILL have to lose TWO Republican Senators' votes to not be able to pass the nuclear option.

Who?
Who are those Senators?
John McCain can't offer anything. Frist, and Bush, can. Why haven't those Senators been stood up in front of an open grave and had their political fate explained to them?

It's fine to be mad at McCain, but the Republican leadership does not have to follow the terms of this "deal". It can press ahead anyhow, and it had better.

After the Specter business after the election, and Terri Schiavo, the "trust me" of the Republicans has been worn out. They have got to act, or as a party they are going to suffer terrible defections. These will not be pro-lifers voting for Hillary, but rather folks getting frustrated and failing to vote, or folks following a legitimate, unabashedly pro-life third party candidate, should one come along.

This is Waterloo.


32 posted on 05/24/2005 12:59:17 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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