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| 27 May 2005
| John Armor (Congressman Billybob)
Posted on 05/24/2005 9:00:37 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob
Frist needs 2 more conservative votes to reform the judiciary. Remember recalcitrant RINOs who voted against the
Constitutional Option
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:36:34 AM PDT
by
Milhous
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Oh, now I see what you meant.
BTW,from todays Washington Times, all we will ever need to know about John McCain:
'Moments earlier as the deal was about to be announced, several Republicans offered the lectern to Mr.Byrd, who demurred, waiting instead for "his turn".
"Your turn is whenever you want it to be", said Mr. McCain, a chief architect of the deal who had to leave the press conference before it ended to make an early screening of a movie about himself.'
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:37:37 AM PDT
by
smoothsailing
(Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
To: Congressman Billybob
I often watch C-Span and have noticed that senators and representatives refer to one another as 'the gentleman from Ohio' or 'the gentleman from Georgia', etc. So, in keeping with senate tradition, I would like to address 'the gentleman from Arizona'. 'The gentleman from Arizona' is an ass.
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:39:00 AM PDT
by
layman
(Card Carrying Infidel)
To: smoothsailing
Warner is from Virginia.Chafee is from Rhode Island.McCain is from Venus.
To: TheBigB
All three will be confirmed. Bank on it. Apparently you didn't hear Lindsey Graham (RINO-NC) this morning. He said he expects at least one of the judges that are being granted a floor vote to be defeated on the floor.
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:39:52 AM PDT
by
steveegg
(Will the "extraordinary" line have the name Owen, Brown or Pryor attached to it?)
To: TheBigB
Make that (RINO-
SC).
At least I didn't say East Carolina :-)
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:40:58 AM PDT
by
steveegg
(Will the "extraordinary" line have the name Owen, Brown or Pryor attached to it?)
Comment #27 Removed by Moderator
To: steveegg
I still bet that all three will be confirmed and I'll stand by it.
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:41:52 AM PDT
by
TheBigB
(These aren't the droids you're looking for...)
To: Lazamataz
I want to be a Republican. I hope they make it possible again.
From Boortz, to Rush, to the Free Republic threads, Republicans are e-mailing and posting the same sentiments. This may create a viable third party in '08. Who knew that Bush could round up the most votes ever by a presidential candidate and create such solidarity in the party only to have these limp-wristed Senators fail us?
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:43:18 AM PDT
by
groanup
(http://fairtax.org)
To: steveegg
Was he referring to Henry Saad, who was not specifically guaranteed or denied a vote? I'd be beyond shocked if Pryor, Owen, or Brown is defeated in an up-or-down vote. Saad supposedly has something nasty in his FBI file and might be the target. Sounds like the GOP dealmakers are throwing a bone to the liberal activists on behalf of their Democratic counterparts.
To: Lazamataz
I fear you are right.
Maybe the RINOs are thinking "well, if we give the Dems EVERY opportunity and show them how FAIR we are, then when push really comes to shove people will see we went the extra mile." But if this is the case, they are truly more naive than I thought. The Dems will NEVER keep their word, will NEVER flinch from taking a shamelessly partisan position, and will NEVER give Republicans "credit" for bending over, yet again. Can you blame them? They see compromise as weakness. And with an opponent like the Dems, it is. Perverse as it sounds, I'd rather believe the seven are self-serving sellouts rather than being so dumb as to have ANY pretensions about the Democrats caring about "comity" or some other such BS.
Does this deal make confirmation of Bush's choices more likely, or not? (The Dems will scream loudly that they let the "very conservative" judges go through in May, but that Bush's supreme court picks, no matter who they are, are "truly beyond the pale." THEY won't be shy about it. And will the agreement be off? Or will lens lice McCain and Graham be looking for another?)
Does this deal make it more or less likely that the Republicans WILL be in the minority soon? Read these boards and you'll get a quick answer.
And this seals McCain's and Graham's fate as far as a national future (in the Republican Party) is concerned.
The Dems knew they would lose this battle, so they blunted the Republicans' victory as much as possible. Rather than having to accept the judges and losing the filibuster, they just have to accept the three judges. If Frist & co. (and all of us!!!) can't rely on their fellow party members, then something is very wrong.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I want a party with the Republicans' policies and the Democrats' chutzpah.
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:49:04 AM PDT
by
cvq3842
To: zebrahead
Saad was widely believed to be one of those denied a floor vote. IIRC, Graham's comments applied to those that would not continue to be fillibustered.
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:49:33 AM PDT
by
steveegg
(Will the "extraordinary" line have the name Owen, Brown or Pryor attached to it?)
To: zebrahead
Apparently Reid did say something to that effect, although it is apparently a violation of Senate rules (and law?) for him to have seen OR commented like that on the file.
But he knows there will be no consequences.
Joe McCarthy had nothing on these guys.
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:51:00 AM PDT
by
cvq3842
To: TheBigB; All
Profound apologies to all for two errors in this piece. 1) Lincoln Chafee (the son) not John Chafee (the deceased father) is the Senator from Rhode Island.
2) Ben Nelson is from Nebraska, not Florida. Bill Nelson is from Florida. Yes I did proofread that, but at 1 a.m.
John / Billybob
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:52:20 AM PDT
by
Congressman Billybob
(For copies of my speech, "Dealing with Outlaw Judges," please Freepmail me.)
To: groanup
On many issues, I think there is restiveness in the Republican ranks. I fear a party split that would only help the Democrats 9think 1992), but then again the Republican party didn't win immediately when it was founded (1854, I believe?) but stuck to its guns.
Holding to one's principles usually wins out over trying to please everyone. And it allows one to sleep better at night anyway.
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:53:50 AM PDT
by
cvq3842
To: dead
I hope you are right - and we prevail!
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:55:14 AM PDT
by
cvq3842
To: zebrahead
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:56:27 AM PDT
by
cvq3842
To: Milhous
Thanks for posting. I will remember!
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posted on
05/24/2005 9:56:53 AM PDT
by
cvq3842
To: cvq3842
Either we meat out these moderates or form a third party of TRUE conservatism. They cannot be allowed to stymie the conservative agenda.
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posted on
05/24/2005 10:22:15 AM PDT
by
jackv
To: seamole
When Arlen Specter was allowed to chair the Judiciary Committee, I thought it was a terrible, terrible mistake.Arlen Specter actions prove his support of the Constitutional Option.
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posted on
05/24/2005 10:25:04 AM PDT
by
Milhous
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