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Unfortunate title, since CAFTA-DR is not a panacea, but a decent editorial nonetheless.
1 posted on 05/24/2005 7:08:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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it looks as if regional free trade zones are the way forward as compared to the monolithic WTO model thus far.


2 posted on 05/24/2005 7:14:55 AM PDT by music is math
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Free trade in the Americas is about joining with our neighbors in a common defense against China's growing power. Those are the true stakes, and fighting futile battles will only distract us from what matters.

A very interesting take on the matter, I had not seen this discussed before from this point of view. I tend to agree with the article.

3 posted on 05/24/2005 7:17:53 AM PDT by Paradox (In my heart, I will always be something of a Liberal, in my head, a Conservative. Head wins.)
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After all, our Latin neighbors are more likely to buy the things we have to sell. That's why farmers producing beef, pork and corn are all for these treaties. So are U.S. companies that make machinery, especially for construction.

I agree.

For sure, China does not want us to sign CAFTA, as good a reason as any to move it forward.

Some of us work for companies which would have to make changes to compete, some of us work for companies which stand to add employees by virtue of the agreement, but one thing for sure, ALL of us are consumers who would benefit, an outcome which generally is under-esteemed by the anti-free traders among us, IMHO.

5 posted on 05/24/2005 7:18:20 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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Gosh CAFTA is about HOPE. Its about EQUITY and giving away US tax dollars to pull Central Americans out of POVERTY. Its about TRANSFORMATIONAL DIPLOMACY. Its about countering the CHINA THREAT CREATED BY ROBERT ZOELLICK, the WTO and the FREE TRADERS in the first place.

Its about creating a global socialist western hemisphere using the classic communist technique of CAUSING A CRISIS, then offering a SOLUTION that is the predetermined outcome of the CRISIS.

Good article, 1rudeboy. For a person who hates subsidies for sugar farmers, you sure like them if they are for "job retraining" or for students.


6 posted on 05/24/2005 7:18:28 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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So by unloading the remainder of our industries to Latin America, a marxist bloc where we are hated as much as the Chinese hate us, we're helping ourselves out.

Great plan.


7 posted on 05/24/2005 7:20:39 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I leave reason and good manners to those that have them.)
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Ping.


13 posted on 05/24/2005 7:29:46 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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No.

CAFTA etc

is about implementing the tyrannical, satanic, globalist world government as fast as the puppet masters and stooges can arrange it.

step by inexorable step.

All the rest is noise, smoke, mirrors and MSM BS.


21 posted on 05/24/2005 7:41:20 AM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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CAFTA is merely a stepping stone to the FTAA and eventually an EU type organization of the Western Hemisphere. If you like what NAFTA has done for us, you'll love CAFTA.


24 posted on 05/24/2005 7:43:16 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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bookmark ping


41 posted on 05/24/2005 7:56:51 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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BOHICA


47 posted on 05/24/2005 8:02:20 AM PDT by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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After 10 Years, NAFTA Continues to Pay Dividends

Nevertheless, ill-informed domestic critics continue to assert that NAFTA has cost hundreds of thousands of American jobs and, further, is somehow responsible for the lingering recession in U.S. manufacturing. They use NAFTA as an argument against proposed trade agreements with Central American and other Latin American countries. But an objective look at the record shows that none of the dire warnings about the agreement have come true.

57 posted on 05/24/2005 8:23:47 AM PDT by music is math
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CAFTA is the answer to China's growing power.

No.. The answer is for China to remove the peg to the US Dollar for their currency. If they refuse to do so ASAP, then we need an administration that has the balls to immediately impose tariffs across the board.

We don't need to drag central America into the geopolitical arena that we've raised China into. The ChiComs are a monster of our own creation, and only the US can do something about it. Unless, that is, we WANT to be consumed by the rest of the world's low wages, low standards of living, and corrupt unaccountable government.

The founders never said that Liberty was free - far from it. The Free Traders only care about the cheapest bottom line - they don't understand "value" when it comes to maintaining the ability to feed, arm, and defend your own nation. "Nation" is antithetical to their goals.

Globalists=Free Traders=Open Borders=Incremental Communism=National Enemies

Sorry, we'll be taking a different path here, as soon as possible. Nice try though. We've decided that the USA is worth more to us than the cheap lettuce and the cheap gadgets. FAIR TRADE, NOT UNILATERAL FREE TRADE. Agreements are a two way street.


61 posted on 05/24/2005 8:29:48 AM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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CAFTA, like NAFTA, is designed to achieve what former Vice President Gore demanded: "a better distribution of jobs." This, of course, is one of the major goals of the socialists who are in virtual control of our country.

If my job is exported it doesn't matter to which country it goes, I'm out of work.

CAFTA will provide favorable tariffs as well as lower labor costs for multinational corporations who are always looking for ways to lower costs. The principal U. S. export under CAFTA will be manufacturing jobs to the low-wage countries of South America.

The flaw in the thinking of our trade policy makers is that if the standard of living is lowered in America, who will buy the junk produced in El Salvador etc?


78 posted on 05/24/2005 9:05:43 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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CAFTA, like NAFTA, is designed to achieve what former Vice President Gore demanded: "a better distribution of jobs." This, of course, is one of the major goals of the socialists who are in virtual control of our country.

If my job is exported it doesn't matter to which country it goes, I'm out of work.

CAFTA will provide favorable tariffs as well as lower labor costs for multinational corporations who are always looking for ways to lower costs. The principal U. S. export under CAFTA will be manufacturing jobs to the low-wage countries of South America.

The flaw in the thinking of our trade policy makers is that if the standard of living is lowered in America, who will buy the junk produced in El Salvador etc?


79 posted on 05/24/2005 9:06:11 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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CAFTA, like NAFTA, is designed to achieve what former Vice President Gore demanded: "a better distribution of jobs." This, of course, is one of the major goals of the socialists who are in virtual control of our country.

If my job is exported it doesn't matter to which country it goes, I'm out of work.

CAFTA will provide favorable tariffs as well as lower labor costs for multinational corporations who are always looking for ways to lower costs. The principal U. S. export under CAFTA will be manufacturing jobs to the low-wage countries of South America.

The flaw in the thinking of our trade policy makers is that if the standard of living is lowered in America, who will buy the junk produced in El Salvador etc?


81 posted on 05/24/2005 9:08:06 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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CAFTA, like NAFTA, is designed to achieve what former Vice President Gore demanded: "a better distribution of jobs." This, of course, is one of the major goals of the socialists who are in virtual control of our country.

If my job is exported it doesn't matter to which country it goes, I'm out of work.

CAFTA will provide favorable tariffs as well as lower labor costs for multinational corporations who are always looking for ways to lower costs. The principal U. S. export under CAFTA will be manufacturing jobs to the low-wage countries of South America.

The flaw in the thinking of our trade policy makers is that if the standard of living is lowered in America, who will buy the junk produced in El Salvador etc?


83 posted on 05/24/2005 9:08:44 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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Oh, now we're not globalists, we're continentalists?


175 posted on 05/24/2005 3:21:35 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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They're history, anyway--if not this year, then in five years. CAFTA is about keeping work in our hemisphere that would otherwise go to China.

The key issue is to take away American jobs - where they go is a mere detail.

Anyway, a true free traitor shouldn't care which hemisphere trade is in; that's a distortion of the holy writ of trade without barriers of any sort. What knots they tie themselves into!

It would be ever so much easier if they would just admit their real goal - destruction of America.

182 posted on 05/24/2005 3:33:47 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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There's no exit door out of this global economy. Parts of the American economy will do well in it; other parts will not.

Hmm.

314 posted on 05/24/2005 6:59:25 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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btttt


363 posted on 05/24/2005 9:21:12 PM PDT by dennisw (He writes everything's been returned which was owed...)
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