[cardinal4]

Agreed. The objective now is the 8 judges. If all 8 pass, it is a win.

So what if these eight pass? I'll bet that was the Dems plan along. Play real hard to get on the eight so Frist would compromise. They had probably planned to pass them all anyway. Those 8 would be NO victory, they are the booby prize. Sheesh!

[LS]

Huh? What kind of tortured reasoning is that?

"Ok, we'll give 'em the judges. Just wait till later."

"OK, we'll give 'em the Supreme Court justices. Just wait till later."

Doesn't make sense. We traded an empty phrase ('extraordinary circumstances') for actual judicial positions. I think, so far, that's pretty smart.

[El Gato]

The judges all would have gotten a vote, and all would have been confirmed, if the Constitutional option had been taken. Plus, Supreme Court nominations would come under the same no filibuster rules. That would have been the big prize, and the RINOs just forfeited it, at least for now.