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Minister puts a price on the right to life (where socialized medicine is leading)
timesonline.co.uk ^ | May 19th, 2005 | Sam Lister

Posted on 05/23/2005 2:00:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

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Here we go, folks.

This where socialized medicine, in cooperation with the Left's agenda of death, leads.

1 posted on 05/23/2005 2:00:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: floriduh voter

Ping...


2 posted on 05/23/2005 2:00:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We, the people, are the...masters of...the courts..." -Abraham Lincoln)
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To: EternalVigilance

It costs over $2200 a day to feed a patient by tube in Britain?


3 posted on 05/23/2005 2:05:17 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: EternalVigilance

And it's closer than you'd ever imagine. Tim Murphy is trying to get a handle on everybody's medical records....then they'll have us over a barrel.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1406656/posts


4 posted on 05/23/2005 2:06:35 PM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: EternalVigilance

Actually, even non-socialized medicine is heading this way. There was an article posted on FR this morning about Kaiser (HMO) recruiting doctors who were willing to do "PAS" (Physician Assisted Suicide). They were looking for doctors who might not be willing to do it on their own patients, but would order it for the patients of other doctors who didn't feel quite right about ordering it.


5 posted on 05/23/2005 2:34:44 PM PDT by livius
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To: EternalVigilance

I swear, these Euros are going to be opening "Soylent Green Burger" franchises with in the next five years.

These people have lost their bearings.


6 posted on 05/23/2005 2:35:15 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby!)
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To: EternalVigilance

This is coming. With the flood of illegals and no way to pay for their care, plus the care for every other illegal headed this way and the admin. not in the mood to close the border, there will soon be no medical care left for American taxpayers who are footing the bills. That's the bottom line. And once this elephant's nose is under the tent...oh, they're here, so many we can't send them back. They do work Americans don't want to do. They contribute, yada, yada, they have a right to education, drivers' licenses, welfare, social security, medical care, the vote, the courts will insist that we pick up the tab and shut up. That's when socialized medicine will be on the table. The feds will have to offer something to the taxpayers...the old bait and switch routine. We'll have a socialized medical care card to tuck in our wallets, right beside the passport...because ordinary Americans are warned that they'd better have an up to date passport as an i.d. or they won't be allowed back in from Canada, etc.. Does this sound like Nazi Germany? Where are your papers!!!


7 posted on 05/23/2005 2:43:15 PM PDT by hershey
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To: EternalVigilance
The dramatic intervention came as lawyers for the General Medical Council challenged a High Court ruling that supported a terminally-ill man’s wish to be kept alive artificially.

I guess you could say we're all terminally ill (my prognosis is another 30-40 years). Now it's up to the bureaucrats to decide when to starve us to death.

8 posted on 05/23/2005 2:47:14 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: EternalVigilance

Wow. They must have thought we'd gone bloody bonkers with all the sturm and drang over Terri Schiavo.


9 posted on 05/23/2005 2:47:58 PM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalism = Leninism.... Liberalism = Bolshevism)
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To: hershey

IOW they'll kill your grandma to make room for maria and her 11 children by 7 fathers.


10 posted on 05/23/2005 2:49:38 PM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalism = Leninism.... Liberalism = Bolshevism)
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To: hershey

There is no way we can keep taking in a flood of illegals all for free. Then on the border the people of Mexico just come across and get free health care. Socialized medicine is practically here. When you put a billion dollars in the medicare bill for foreigners that is socialization.


11 posted on 05/23/2005 2:51:11 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: EternalVigilance

I've got news for you. This is where we're going whether the government or the private sector controls health care. Unless you're one of those few with an unlimited bank account, somebody else is going to ultimately decide how much gets spent to keep you alive. It may be a government bureaucrat or it may be an HMO accountant. Ultimately, the result will be the same. The trend is toward rationing, whether through socialized medicine or through privatization.


12 posted on 05/23/2005 3:05:42 PM PDT by kms61
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The medical, the legal and the political professions have been infected by the lies propogated by the death cultists, you are correct. The battle is being fought on all of those fronts.


13 posted on 05/23/2005 3:16:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We, the people, are the...masters of...the courts..." -Abraham Lincoln)
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To: EternalVigilance
When the Challenger left the launch pad at the cape and before the catastropic event, the Commander of the Challenger said "uh oh."

This is another "uh oh" moment because we didn't get to vote on creating a society divided into classes of people; those who enjoy all their rights and those who have no rights as soon as they are infirmed.

14 posted on 05/23/2005 4:37:24 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.theemppirejournal.com... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave; 8mmMauser; a5478; Alamo-Girl; amdgmary; AnimalLover; atruelady; ...
Ping. Is this the govt we want because this is the govt they are forcing upon us.

US Congress Toll Free: 1-877-762-8762.

Please call any time and complain.

15 posted on 05/23/2005 4:41:12 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.theemppirejournal.com... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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All the govt agency needs to do is to deem any medical equipment or even nutrition as "artificial" and we can be killed, not all at once of course, but it's starting.

Terri Schiavo 1963 - 2005. May she rest in peace. She was murdered by judicial homicide and by Fla's nine gop senators who voted against Terri's life w/Senator Jim King, Jacksonville.

16 posted on 05/23/2005 4:45:50 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.theemppirejournal.com... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: texastoo

Don't vote for another Bush for president. Jeb's wife is from Mexico City. Both Bushes imo want to expand illegal immigration. They are missing the big picture altogether.


17 posted on 05/23/2005 4:47:49 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.theemppirejournal.com... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: kms61
somebody else is going to ultimately decide how much gets spent to keep you alive. It may be a government bureaucrat or it may be an HMO accountant.

Not necessarily. If there are enough of us who would prefer individual responsibility to the promise of a "free lunch", we can elect politicians who will enact proposals such as tort reform, Medical Savings Accounts, and Medicare/Medicaid reform.
Unfortunately, the free lunch crowd seems to win most often.

18 posted on 05/23/2005 4:48:49 PM PDT by speekinout
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ping to self for later pingout.


19 posted on 05/23/2005 5:11:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: speekinout

All that may delay the onset somewhat, but at the end of the day, the resources available to pay for high-end medical care are finite, while the demand for it is nearly infinite. It will be rationed. The only question is who is going to do the rationing.

Do I like socialized medicine? Absolutely not. That said, I'm not too crazy about the HMO business model which views the patient as a drain on the bottom line either.


20 posted on 05/23/2005 5:57:28 PM PDT by kms61
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