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To: VadeRetro; Inyo-Mono
"Archaeopteryx is a hoax in one link and evidence that it is a true bird and not a “missing link” in another. What nonsense." - Inyo-Mono

"You're not supposed to pay attention to that, anyway. You're just supposed to notice he has all these rocks to throw and be impressed." - Vade Retro

The way the two articles were presented with the second article indented and linked to the first article, it should have been clear at a glance to most educated readers that the second article is an update of the first.

If you had actually read the articles you would find that the second one is indeed an update and refers repeatedly to the hoax theory of the first article and dismisses the hoax theory. However the very evidence that dismisses the hoax theory also establishes Archaeopteryx as a true bird and not a reptile.

(Post #14 was the original post at which the above italicized attacks are directed.)

262 posted on 05/23/2005 3:42:41 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
However the very evidence that dismisses the hoax theory also establishes Archaeopteryx as a true bird and not a reptile.

Yep, a 'true' bird, which, uinlike any living bird, has concave-articulated vertebrae, free rather than fused; abdominal ribs; a rib cage that doesn't articulate with the sternum; mobile joints in the upper limbs, rather than the fused joints found in birds; solid rather than hollow bones; a therapsid rather than avian skull structure; teeth; and a tail.

For some odd reason, nothing like that has ever visited my feeders.

263 posted on 05/23/2005 3:50:31 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: DannyTN
If you had actually read the articles you would find that the second one is indeed an update and refers repeatedly to the hoax theory of the first article and dismisses the hoax theory.

Most of us already knew the hoax theory was itself a hoax. When Hoyle made his ridiculous claim, the fossil itself was extensively investigated. There was no way it was a forgery at all, much less a 19th-century-technology forgery.

However the very evidence that dismisses the hoax theory also establishes Archaeopteryx as a true bird and not a reptile.

Archaeopteryx is almost as perfect a halfway creature as anyone could want.

The basis of the hoax theory is that Archaeopteryx looks like a dinosaur, except for the feathers. It does look like a dinosaur. It has a dinosaur head, a dinosaur tail, and dinosaur claws. Even funnier, we have these Chinese dinosaurs that look like Archaeopteryx and they have feathers, too. They're basically Archy's closest known relatives, but they're not even birds. They're feathered dinosaurs.

For the umpteenth time, the itemized lists:

The Bird Features.
The Dinosaur Features.

What Archy's skeleton looked like:

Here's what a modern bird skeleton looks like:

The big plow-blade shaped thing is the sternum. It has been adapted by *ahem* evolution to anchor the big flapping muscles of a flying bird. Archy's sternum isn't depicted in the drawing above. When a specimen was finally found with a preserved sternum, it was a regular little saurian plate, not a mighty blade.

Funniest of all, DannyTN should have learned all this years ago.

277 posted on 05/23/2005 5:07:20 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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