Condi Rice Wants It ('O8 Presidental Nomination): But In Draft Form

US News and World Report ^ | May 30th, 2005 Issue | Paul Bedard

[gopwinsin04]

Political associates of US Secretary of State Condi Rice ar e stirring the pot on her behalf.

While she takes the high road, they are pushing her name out there.

'She definitely wants to be president,' said one.

But the friend added, Rice isn't planning on quitting [as Secretary of State] to run.

'She wants to be drafted,' the source said.

[PhilDragoo]

Condi telling PLA Gen. Ji Shingde that his offer to "incinerate Los Angeles" was "not helpful"--the diplomatic beach slap.

Condi's doing fine as Secretary of State; "sources" hallucinating "draft-me" are voices in or on Hitlery's head.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Abortion is pre-meditated murder. But you better keep your powder dry. I've listed above a number of States that would sink an Amendment. Throwing out Roe may be the best we can get.

Then we shall always live in fear of the next Roe vs. Wade just as we would have had to fear another Dred Scott vs. Sandford had the 14th amendment not been ratified after the Civil War. We must therefore always be vigilant against allowing the Republican party to drop its opposition to abortion. Sec. Rice or other pro-abortion candidates must not be permitted to win the Republican presidential or vice-presidential nomination.

[Babu]

Allen/Rice 2008

George Allen is a rapidly rising star in the Republican party. Though he is just beginning to be widely known by the rank and file, polls of Republican Insiders show him as the likely front runner. Rush has been talking very favorably about him recently.

With this ticket I think we can take out McInsane effectively in the primaries (a must!)

And in the general election with this ticket, I think we can win and put down that evil witch, Hildebeast. Then the Klintoons' political life is finito!

[Evolution]

IF she runs and gets the nomination, why not? Will you hand this country to Hillary?

You are getting caught up in the whole name game of Clintons and Bushs and Dems and Republicans.

What are Condi's position on the issues?

If she is a leftist on many issues then it doesnt matter if she or Hillary win because either way a Leftist wins.

[Delphinium]

Here's my standard:

Here is my standard. I cannot trust anyone on any issue if they believe its okay to murder an innocent child.

Has nothing to do with religious belief.

[Turbopilot]

Here is my standard. I cannot trust anyone on any issue if they believe it's okay to murder an innocent child.

An eminently reasonable standard. But calling an embryo at any time after the instant of conception a child, no different from a live baby, is a religious belief. Thus a politician who wasn't against all abortions because s/he didn't hold that belief wouldn't actually think murder is acceptable.

[GRRRRR]

Could you be more specific please?
I'm always interested to learn from those wiser than myself.

Somehow, Dr. Rice being a 'leftist' doesn't quite follow in logic...so you tell me.

[hobbes1]

You there, boy...I said Answer my phone, not sit at MY desk....

[Delphinium]

But calling an embryo at any time after the instant of conception a child, no different from a live baby, is a religious belief.

My belief that it is a live baby comes from science. Even planned parenthood has now admitted it is a baby they are killing. Anyone who looks at the scientific evidence of today knows it is a live child.

There are some who have had, or have paid for abortions who refuse to see the truth because of their own guilt.

[kabar]

There hasn't been a successful draft campaign since the days of brokered conventions. It's not going to happen now. If she wants to run, she'll have to run.

Exactly right. The Presidential primary system rules out the possibility of a draft candidate or brokered nomination unless the the other candidates don't have a majority going into the convention.

[kabar]

The Warner thinking about running for President is Mark Warner, the current Dem governor. Senator John Warner will be 81 in 2008.

[kabar]

Unless I'm totally off base, there is a man who did quite well as president having never run an election. Ike. He did a quite passable job as president and I think Cond's credentials are just as good as his, and would be even better prep

Comparing Condi with Ike is a bit of a stretch. Ike was the Supreme Allied Commander who led his nation to victory in the biggest war in history. Condi is no Ike. She has similar qualifications as Herber Hoover, the other successful GOP candidate who never held elective office.

[gopwinsin04]

It also would raise massive fundraising problems for the Dems.

[Walkingfeather]

The other problem for the dems is that she is personally liked by the democratic insiders in washington. Which will make it hard for them to personally attack her. They will have to hire Sharpton and Jackson to badmouth her, which will show what schills they are. Which we would be able to exploit in amazing ways.

[GovernmentShrinker]

The Bushes say they are pro-life, but the United Methodist Church denomination they are affiliated with is a radically leftist denomination that promotes abortion.

Everybody is "pro-life", except for a few wacko cults like the Jim Jones outfit. But there's a wide range of differences in how people define that, and when they think exceptions should be made to the general bias. Some people are so "pro-life" that they don't think there should ever be a death penalty, no matter how vicious the crime someone has committed. Some people consider taking a pill to prevent a zygote from dividing and implanting, to be "murder", but many of those same people favor the death penalty. The Bushes call themselves "pro-life", but they probably don't mean the same thing you do when they say it -- and in fact the record indicates that the two of them each have somewhat different definitions. They get along well anyway.

[patriciaruth]

The more I see of George Allen, the more I like him

What have you seen?

The few times I've seen him, he's seemed as exciting as a bowl of mashed potatoes.

Can someone without some TV charisma win in today's media world?

[patriciaruth]

Thune in 2012!!

[MikefromOhio]

well technically I will be eligible in 2016, but I will be busy being governor of Ohio right then :)

[patriciaruth]

FYI: Karl Rove says he is not going to handle another presidential campaign.

[MikefromOhio]

I'll tell you why some people on here won't vote for her. She isnt a Constitutionalist or Tom Tancredo.

That's the only reasons. They would be the same people saying they quit the GOP just about every thread these days...