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Dirty Harry
National Republican Senatorial Committee ^ | May 16-20, 2005 | Mark Stephens

Posted on 05/20/2005 3:10:25 PM PDT by yoe

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Never forget Tom Daschle! For Harry Reid this is pay back time for his fellow socialist - nothing to do with the American People, just the Socialist Democrats who will maul the United States Constitution in order to stop it's proper use in judicial nominations from President Bush.
1 posted on 05/20/2005 3:10:25 PM PDT by yoe
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The Associated Press recently reported: "In an institution that prides itself as a last bastion of civility, the Senate's new Democratic leader has on occasion turned to playground taunts and name-calling in his four-month tenure."

Color me shocked the AP characterized Reid that way.


2 posted on 05/20/2005 3:12:27 PM PDT by Peach
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It would indeed be fun to askole Harry what his model is for his whiny sniveling management style---when has it ever worked before? Do they teach it at UU? Altho it's counter productive and pretty much disgusting it will be fun to watch the slow implosion that's gonna happen.


3 posted on 05/20/2005 3:17:36 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Peach
Shabby Harry would be more like it. Peach I have been harping on various posts for over a week about the rule changes by Tom Daschle, now it is coming to light. I have phoned the Washington, D.C. offices of most of the Senators on the committee or Faxed them and I don't intend to let up this week end. If each Freeper would call his or her Senator and leave this message, it would help to let them know we are watching and listening to what each says. Send this message:

THE UNITED STATES CONSTIUTION DOES NOT SET FORTH THE REQUIREMENT OF A SUPER MAJORITY (60); ONLY A SIMPLE MAJORITY (51). NO SENATE RULE CAN AMEND THE CONSTITUTION. ONLY A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CAN AMEND THE CONSTITUTION. A SENATE RULE REQUIRING A SUPER MANORITY IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. WHY IS A SENATE RULE REQUIRING A SUPER MAJORITY EVEN BEING DISCUSSED.

Tom Daschle was allowed to “change the rules” by threats and cajolery and the MSM covered his unConstitutional foray into the bowels of the Senate cheering him on. Harry Reid is now carrying the baton and doing the exact same thing however, the MSM is beginning to waver and the citizens of this great nation are beginning to see the ruse of unConstitutional behavior. John McCain of AZ has joined with Ted Kennedy to work out a “compromise” – that is already unConstitutional. Read the note in bold letters, pass it on and keep up the drum roll for the Senate to act according to the United States Constitution, that is the only legal option these Senators have. The "rules" Shabby Harry is screaming about are the Tom Daschle rules in Bush's first term, he doesn't want them changed - they were unConstitutional then and they are unConstitutional now!

4 posted on 05/20/2005 3:59:14 PM PDT by yoe
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That an EXCELLENT point, yoe. And if you've made it before to me in a ping, I've somehow missed it and apologize.

How I wish I'd seen that because that is exactly what I would have said the several times I called Lindsey Graham's office.

I'll call Monday morning. Thank you for stating it so simply and well. And keep spamming the threads with that information IN BOLD on all the pertinent threads.


5 posted on 05/20/2005 4:02:08 PM PDT by Peach
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To: yoe

Dingy Harry. 'Nuff said.


6 posted on 05/20/2005 4:03:56 PM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: yoe

You'll be happy to know that a wonderful letter to the editor just appeared in our local newspaper which pointed out exactly what you posted.


7 posted on 05/20/2005 4:13:06 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
The Associated Press recently reported: "In an institution that prides itself as a last bastion of civility, the Senate's new Democratic leader has on occasion turned to playground taunts and name-calling in his four-month tenure."

Color me shocked the AP characterized Reid that way.

Me too. However, it's a perfect description of Creepy Harry's behavior. He's all the more creepy because he whines his vicious little diatribes while hiding behind that Casper Milquetoast persona.

8 posted on 05/20/2005 4:42:42 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (The incidence of coincidence rises with prayer.)
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The "politics" you refer to is mindless hatred devoid of any alternative or recognizable agenda.
He and they are going headfirst into the sewer.
He and his party are bankrupt.
This hardly deserves cheery and animated expository.


9 posted on 05/20/2005 5:10:39 PM PDT by CBart95
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I'd also add that it was a Democrat-controlled Senate that used a simple majority to change the rules 30 years ago to make it "three-fifths" of "all elected Senators" instead of "two-thirds" of Senators "voting and present" required to end a filibuster.

This provides a disincentive to debate--meaning it's easier to obstruct now by just walking out and removing quorum, rather than requiring the minority to continue to debate any points of contention. This is hardly what the Founding Fathers intended.

10 posted on 05/20/2005 5:37:05 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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"What should be of more concern to the American people is whether or not Senator Reid will continue the politics of obstructing the people's business in the United States Senate".


Sen. Harry Reid in his private tax payer funded "war room" working on his solutions for America's future and national security. In this photo he is taking a break to show his democrat senators the finer strokes needed to smear their opponents.

11 posted on 05/20/2005 7:54:51 PM PDT by harpo11 (Only You Can Stop Dems Unprecedented Filibuster Against A Pres. Duty to Appoint Judges -Call)
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Harry is like manna from heaven, he is over-the-top vicious and will continue to make these verbal blunders.

Also, Harry has some local dirt that is going to be dredged up pretty soon.


12 posted on 05/20/2005 8:25:41 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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Dingy Harry reminds me of a funeral director. How appropriate seeing that he has become the poster-child (second only to Tom Daschle) for the demise of the Democrat obstructionism in the Senate.
13 posted on 05/20/2005 8:46:11 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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They are wrong, but the opposition just turns the argument around and asserts:

"The Constitution says the Senate makes its own rules, and does not say that the Senate must consider a nominee. By refusing to vote on the nominee, we are rejecting the nominee. This is Constitutional."

There we are. He said, she said. Both sides need more to prove their contentions. Why is the super-majority unconstitutional?

Nominations and treaties are two powers named in the part of the Constitution that gives power to the President. Senate consideration of Nominations impacts the power of the president to appoint the officers that he chooses to nominate. While the Senate is free to make rules that affect only it, it cannot make rules that diminish the power of another branch. The Senate has a DUTY to advice and consent, confirm or reject, each nominee; just as surely as it has a DUTY to render judgement in an impeachment trial. It cannot conduct the trial, and then refuse to vote. It cannot consider a nominee, and then refuse to vote.

In contrast, the power of each House to make its own rules clearly applies to matters PURELY internal to its workings. The language in the Constitution is, "shall be the Judge of Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own members ... may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a member."

14 posted on 05/20/2005 8:50:58 PM PDT by Cboldt
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RULE VI
QUORUM - ABSENT SENATORS MAY BE SENT FOR

  1. A quorum shall consist of a majority of the Senators duly chosen and sworn.

  2. No Senator shall absent himself from the service of the Senate without leave.

  3. If, at any time during the daily sessions of the Senate, a question shall be raised by any Senator as to the presence of a quorum, the Presiding Officer shall forthwith direct the Secretary to call the roll and shall announce the result, and these proceedings shall be without debate.

  4. Whenever upon such roll call it shall be ascertained that a quorum is not present, a majority of the Senators present may direct the Sergeant at Arms to request, and, when necessary, to compel the attendance of the absent Senators, which order shall be determined without debate; and pending its execution, and until a quorum shall be present, no debate nor motion, except to adjourn, or to recess pursuant to a previous order entered by unanimous consent, shall be in order.

http://rules.senate.gov/senaterules/rule06.htm

15 posted on 05/20/2005 8:52:11 PM PDT by Cboldt
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In contrast, the power of each House to make its own rules clearly applies to matters PURELY internal to its workings. The language in the Constitution is, "shall be the Judge of Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own members ... may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a member."

Good point, but could the Supreme Court step in if the rules turn out to be unconstitutional? Could the Supremes say to the Senate "Wait a minute, you can't de facto amend the Constitution with the shifting sands of rules that come and go based on political conveniences of the times!".
16 posted on 05/20/2005 8:56:01 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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Good point, but could the Supreme Court step in if the rules turn out to be unconstitutional? Could the Supremes say to the Senate "Wait a minute, you can't de facto amend the Constitution with the shifting sands of rules that come and go based on political conveniences of the times!".

Only if a case is brought to it. And at a glance, it is as likely as not the Supreme Court would find the matter non-justiciable. That's a fancy term for "we won't get into it because it is outside of the power of the court."

As a practical matter, this WILL be settled politically. But there are good arguments to get it into court, and if it got into court, it is on principle (i.e., if SCOTUS applied the Constitution), a slam dunk winner for the GOP.

17 posted on 05/20/2005 9:01:13 PM PDT by Cboldt
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But there are good arguments to get it into court, and if it got into court, it is on principle (i.e., if SCOTUS applied the Constitution), a slam dunk winner for the GOP.

To quote John Belushi in Animal House: "LET'S DO IT!!!!"
18 posted on 05/20/2005 9:04:42 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To quote John Belushi in Animal House: "LET'S DO IT!!!!"

The Senate made this mess. It is best if they clean it up themselves. If it is to go to court, the best plaintiff is the President. He's the one who is being denied his rightful power of choosing government officers, buth judicial and executive. If the Senate doesn't like his choices, they can vote to reject them -- the people deserve that feedback from their Senators.

What makes the argument tough to conceptualize is that it is easy to equate absence of decision (not voting) with rejection. The problem is, the president would have the officers of his choosing if the Senate would vote. Rejection by not voting is NOT the ssame thing as voting and letting the chips fall where they may.

The DEMs are perpetrating minority rule over the president's choices.

19 posted on 05/20/2005 9:10:56 PM PDT by Cboldt
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"Harry has some local dirt that is going to be dredged up pretty soon."

Cool.

Could it be what Rush has talked about, with some {{{very close to Reid}}} having dealt in business and legal matters that do come before the Senate - all to their great benefit?

Can you imagine the whining and moaning from him when it hits the fan? He will claim he is being punished for daring to stand up to the Bush-and-GOP power grab; that this is where true corruption lies - not in his "hiding in plain sight" dealings.

Get out your cryin' towels, folks.


20 posted on 05/21/2005 5:39:23 AM PDT by txrangerette
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