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CA: Governor flatly declares a special fall election will happen
San Diego Union -Tribune ^ | 5/20/05 | Tom Chorneau - AP

Posted on 05/20/2005 9:09:29 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO – In his strongest terms yet, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said he would call a special election this fall "no matter what," saying the magnitude of the changes he is seeking are almost certain to require voter approval.

"We are going to call the special election no matter what. I can guarantee you that," Schwarzenegger said on KFBK-AM in Sacramento. " . . . I cannot think of a compromise that I can come up with that will make us happy because in order to change the budget one has to literally have the vote of the people. In order to change redistricting the way it is right now, we need a vote of the people."

Schwarzenegger has yet to sign an official proclamation calling for the election and said during the same interview that he remains interested in negotiating with lawmakers.

His spokeswoman, Margita Thompson, said it is still possible the state could avoid an election, although the options for doing so are dwindling as a June deadline approaches.

"The governor was saying that it looks increasingly likely that the Legislature is not going to come to any agreement," Thompson said. "They've not shown any inclination they want to compromise."

The governor's comments come as his administration and the Democrats who control the state Legislature embark on a war of words over the need for a special election and the prospects for compromise. Democrats say the issues the governor wants to address could be handled through negotiations or at the ballot box next year, rather than in a special election estimated to cost between $70 million and $80 million.

"It's a total waste of $80 million, when the same issues can be resolved several months later at no extra cost," said Steve Maviglio, spokesman for Assembly Speaker Fabian Núñez, D-Los Angeles.

Maviglio noted that the next regular statewide election is scheduled for June 2006.

In yet another sign that he is serious about promoting his agenda, Schwarzenegger is embarking on an out-of-state fundraising trip. He is scheduled to attend private Florida events in Tampa, Orlando and Miami today and tomorrow, and will visit Chicago and Dallas on Monday. His chief political strategist, Mike Murphy, said the governor and his supporters could spend $50 million on a special election campaign.

The governor has about a month to call a special election on his initiatives: increasing the length of time it takes teachers to get tenure; changing the way legislative district boundaries are drawn; and implementing a spending cap.

He dropped earlier proposals to reform the state's pension system and tie teacher pay to merit rather than tenure.

A special election ballot is likely to include a number of other initiatives, including a requirement that minors notify their parents before getting an abortion and a measure targeting the ability of unions, a staple of Democratic campaign contributions, to raise money from their members.

Since proposing his package in January, Schwarzenegger has urged – sometimes challenged – Democratic leaders to negotiate with him on alternative solutions.

Two of the governor's proposals – redistricting and the spending cap – would change the state Constitution and require voter approval.

Even if Democrats and the governor agreed on the two measures, they would still require passage in a statewide election.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; calreform; declares; election; flatly; happen; schwarzenegger; special; specialelection

1 posted on 05/20/2005 9:09:34 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
What in the heck good a special election will do. Even if the proposed ballot measures are approved, the jacka@@ judges will nullify the measures. Can't fight crap in California, it is too integrated.
2 posted on 05/20/2005 9:17:18 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
More political posturing. Arnold's testosterone level up today?
3 posted on 05/20/2005 9:23:18 AM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: afnamvet

Could be that he's grown tired of the Governor's role.


4 posted on 05/20/2005 9:31:10 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I think he's just frustrated that his state is the crapper and the legislative branch doesn't want to do anything to dig themselves out of it. Can't say I blame him.
5 posted on 05/20/2005 9:33:13 AM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: tfecw

Arnold can offer to cut the size of government or walk away. Californians can decide.


6 posted on 05/20/2005 9:37:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The thrill is gone.


7 posted on 05/20/2005 9:51:29 AM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: afnamvet

You might be right. Jessie Ventura turned into a mental case in the first year. Maybe Arnold doesn't want the same fate.


8 posted on 05/20/2005 10:22:05 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Jesse Ventura was always a mental case, it just took a little time in office for it to become obvious to all. If you ever get a chance to see the campaign commercials he ran when running for the governer's office, definitely watch them. They could be run unedited on Saturday night live.


9 posted on 05/20/2005 11:50:16 AM PDT by NYorkerInHouston
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To: NormsRevenge
Daniel Weintraub had an idea worth noting. Republicans should join Democrats and vote to put the Democrats proposed budget along with tax increases to pay for it, on this fall's ballot. Its a debate we need to be having. The voters can decide whether they want a slimmed down California government that lives within the constraints of the resources it has or whether they want a government that funds generous social services with high taxes. By all means, let's bring it on!!!

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
10 posted on 05/20/2005 12:04:16 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Logical me
Even if the proposed ballot measures are approved, the jacka@@ judges will nullify the measures.

Not true. The California Supreme Court is mostly Republican and tends to be conservative. I'd be very surprised if they did not uphold the ballot measures.

11 posted on 05/20/2005 12:44:28 PM PDT by dpwiener
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To: NYorkerInHouston
We lived in Minnesota and both wife and I voted for Jessie when he ran. His ads were out of sight...
What clicked with us and many conservatives was his claim to reduce the tax burden on state residents (8 1/2 percent state income tax) and to reduce the size of the statehouse bureaucracy more than 50 percent of the population hold jobs related to government). The tax rate was cut to 8 percent and a budget surplus was returned to taxpayers in the form of sales tax rebate checks. This amounted to almost $4500 to us.
About 14 months into his job, Jessie started saying state employees had nothing to fear and he had a vision of mass transit for downtown Minneapolis. He began to make odd threatening remarks at reporters who covered state government and embarked on one of the biggest boondoggles that state ever saw--light rail transit, costing billions. I see in today's news that the current gov vetoed a $.10/gallon gas tax hike. This "need" for more road money can be directly linked to the light rail fiasco.
12 posted on 05/20/2005 1:24:42 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: goldstategop

In general, I think that was already voted on.

65% of voters went with the "No Tax" guys in the recall election.


13 posted on 05/20/2005 3:39:57 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Prop 287 was also voted in by the CA voters (I was then one) and look what happened? Illegals by the millions!


14 posted on 05/20/2005 3:42:20 PM PDT by princess leah (\)
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To: NormsRevenge
"It's a total waste of $80 million, when the same issues can be resolved several months later at no extra cost," said Steve Maviglio, spokesman for Assembly Speaker Fabian Núñez, D-Los Angeles.

Except that we can get a head start on redistricting if that initiative passes.

15 posted on 05/20/2005 6:51:17 PM PDT by John Jorsett (email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
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To: John Jorsett
If the Democrats had been serious about solving our state's problems, we wouldn't need to spend $80 million on a special election. Its been nearly six months and the majority party has taken no action on getting our state in order. So how's the Governor to blame for having to do what they haven't?

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
16 posted on 05/20/2005 7:04:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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