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Greeley should know about "big lies" as he publishes them weekly. It's always interesting how these liberal clowns like Greeley ignore the Soviets' role in attacking Poland in Sept, '39 and how the western allies stood by as the commies overran the countries that they went to war to liberate.
1 posted on 05/20/2005 7:49:59 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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Right, like repeating that Clinton's impeachment "was all about sex."


2 posted on 05/20/2005 7:52:27 AM PDT by GianniV
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Joseph Goebbels? Was he at Yalta?


3 posted on 05/20/2005 7:53:42 AM PDT by Brilliant
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>>>>>>>President Bush continues the practice of the big lie as prescribed by Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's propaganda ace

Whatever happened to subtle innuendo. Greeley must have thought Subtle Innuendo was that foreign exchange student he thought talked funny back in High School.
5 posted on 05/20/2005 7:55:29 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("Every man's your brother 'til the rent comes due" - Anon.)
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...there was nothing much he [Roosevelt] could do to extirpate the Red Army from those or any other countries they occupied except drive them out by brute force.

Might not have been such a bad move.

6 posted on 05/20/2005 7:55:46 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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Must suck to be Andrew Greeley today.
Hates the new Pope.
Hates the President.
Nobody's buying his trashy novels.
7 posted on 05/20/2005 7:56:54 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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"Thus, Bush's "apology" was valid only if he believes that the United States should have driven the Red Army out of Germany (a geographically necessary first step) and then out of Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia (and Ukraine, for good measure). How many millions more would have died on both sides in this continuation of the war?"

So, Andrew, it's not a "lie" we're talking about, but rather who had the strongest will to stand up for what they believed. Apparently it was Stalin, and Greeley serves as his apologist.



8 posted on 05/20/2005 7:57:33 AM PDT by zook
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So Greeley thinks the Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe was a good thing?


9 posted on 05/20/2005 7:58:09 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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Stalin obtained nothing at the Yalta agreements that he had not already captured.

Sure he did: permission to keep what he had captured.

10 posted on 05/20/2005 7:58:53 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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But it was not his fault that he believed all the intelligence agencies of the world, was it?

Stunning. Now they don't even care that the intel was pretty uniform that Saddam probably still had WMDs. Bush was, you know, supposed to KNOW. As if he could go to Iraq and see for himself.

11 posted on 05/20/2005 7:59:23 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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Greeley can't help but repeat a big lie to open his article.

The left is notorious for doing what they claim not to be doing. Or blaming behavior on others that they are engaged in themselves.

And the business management of print media wonders why there is a decline in readership!


13 posted on 05/20/2005 8:00:35 AM PDT by Pylot
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Greeley is basically a "fallen away" priest with communist sympathys who
also is allowed to pollute the mush minds of students (attendees} at the University of Arizona. His opinions are always suspect.


14 posted on 05/20/2005 8:04:46 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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Stalin obtained nothing at the Yalta agreements that he had not already captured.

So what? That doesn't mean that it was legitimate for Stalin to annex the Baltics and de-facto annex those parts of Europe that he had captured.

15 posted on 05/20/2005 8:07:52 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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Greeley staes that there was nothing much that could have been done to extirpate the USSR from states in Eastern Europe which it had already occupied. Funny, I don't remember the Allies occupying France, Italy, Netherlands or anyplace else after the War except West Germany and West Berlin. These were occupied long enough for the Germans to gather themselves up as a democratic nation. Pinkos like Greeley continued to love and laud the Commies knowing full well that they had stretched their empire by means of a boot on the throats of the occupied. Paging Alger (Ales) Hiss, Comrade Hiss, your bosses are calling.


20 posted on 05/20/2005 8:13:52 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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Greeley is pathetic. He must think his collar is hiding his condescension and hate. Yeah, right Greeley, tell us about lying!


22 posted on 05/20/2005 8:16:29 AM PDT by macamadamia
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Classic debating technique. Mischaracterize the other side's argument, then knock it down.

Neither Bush nor anti-communists have ever suggested that the U.S. should have continued WW2 against the Soviets. Rather, the Yalta agreement gave tacit approval to Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. What Roosevelt could have done is to demand that after the war, the Soviets remove themselves from otherwise sovereign allied or non-aligned nations like Poland, Baltic Republics, Czechoslovakia, and Yugoslavia.

Anyway, what a GOOFBALL the Sun-Times has on its editorial staff.


23 posted on 05/20/2005 8:19:35 AM PDT by Elpasser
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This man is a communist and a disgrace to all Catholics.


24 posted on 05/20/2005 8:26:02 AM PDT by detch
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greeley is certainly trying to follow in the footsteps of his and the dems/stealth-commies' hero: Goebbels
25 posted on 05/20/2005 8:27:39 AM PDT by NoClones
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Actually, if we demanded that the Soviet Union withdraw to its previous borders, and they neglected, and we massed troops on the borders, cut off all trade and blockaded the them from trading with all nations, put forces in China (in effect, saving China from communism) while British forces could move up Central Asia, the Soviet Union would be bottled in and after seeing two A-Bombs in Japan it is more than likely they would back down. And if not, we could build some more and have another demonstration over Stalingrad and the Soviets would have little to no choice but to surrender to all U.S. demands.


30 posted on 05/20/2005 9:09:17 AM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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"Thus, Bush's "apology" was valid only if he believes that the United States should have driven the Red Army out of Germany (a geographically necessary first step) and then out of Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia (and Ukraine, for good measure). How many millions more would have died on both sides in this continuation of the war?"

I don't and won't second guess FDR at Yalta. But this quote from the article says it all as far as I'm concerned. The US was not equipped to do what's described above. The war had taken a tremendous toll on all involved. The only other option was to nuke Moscow which was not a decision to be taken lightly. After VE day with the Russians being just as big heroes as the Americans, it would have been very hard to do. The American public would have never accepted this immediately after WWII. By the time the real threat of Communism was apparent it was too late.

34 posted on 05/20/2005 9:25:43 AM PDT by DaGman
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to ANDREW GREELEY;
"GO to Hell young man."- Horace Greeley(paraphrased)
35 posted on 05/20/2005 9:46:06 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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