Bush is wrong on Yalta apology (GREELEY ALERT)

Chicago Sun-Times ^ | May 20, 2005 | ANDREW GREELEY

[Chi-townChief]

Greeley should know about "big lies" as he publishes them weekly. It's always interesting how these liberal clowns like Greeley ignore the Soviets' role in attacking Poland in Sept, '39 and how the western allies stood by as the commies overran the countries that they went to war to liberate.

[GianniV]

Right, like repeating that Clinton's impeachment "was all about sex."

[Brilliant]

Joseph Goebbels? Was he at Yalta?

[EagleUSA]

Right, like repeating that Clinton's impeachment "was all about sex."
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Yes, the spinmeisters of the leftist media just keep at it, don't they? The real problem is that there are still fools that buy their newspapers, those that must be fed the liberal re-written, spun perspective so they can get through a day...

[.cnI redruM]

>>>>>>>President Bush continues the practice of the big lie as prescribed by Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's propaganda ace

Whatever happened to subtle innuendo. Greeley must have thought Subtle Innuendo was that foreign exchange student he thought talked funny back in High School.

[randog]

...there was nothing much he [Roosevelt] could do to extirpate the Red Army from those or any other countries they occupied except drive them out by brute force.

Might not have been such a bad move.

[Semper Paratus]

Must suck to be Andrew Greeley today.
Hates the new Pope.
Hates the President.
Nobody's buying his trashy novels.

[zook]

"Thus, Bush's "apology" was valid only if he believes that the United States should have driven the Red Army out of Germany (a geographically necessary first step) and then out of Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia (and Ukraine, for good measure). How many millions more would have died on both sides in this continuation of the war?"

So, Andrew, it's not a "lie" we're talking about, but rather who had the strongest will to stand up for what they believed. Apparently it was Stalin, and Greeley serves as his apologist.

[Unam Sanctam]

So Greeley thinks the Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe was a good thing?

[Mr. Jeeves]

Stalin obtained nothing at the Yalta agreements that he had not already captured.

Sure he did: permission to keep what he had captured.

[dirtboy]

But it was not his fault that he believed all the intelligence agencies of the world, was it?

Stunning. Now they don't even care that the intel was pretty uniform that Saddam probably still had WMDs. Bush was, you know, supposed to KNOW. As if he could go to Iraq and see for himself.

[beeler]

Patton and MacArthur could've handled the Reds. If not, an A-bomb going off above Moscow would've done the trick.

[Pylot]

Greeley can't help but repeat a big lie to open his article.

The left is notorious for doing what they claim not to be doing. Or blaming behavior on others that they are engaged in themselves.

And the business management of print media wonders why there is a decline in readership!

[Don Corleone]

Greeley is basically a "fallen away" priest with communist sympathys who
also is allowed to pollute the mush minds of students (attendees} at the University of Arizona. His opinions are always suspect.

[Rodney King]

Stalin obtained nothing at the Yalta agreements that he had not already captured.

So what? That doesn't mean that it was legitimate for Stalin to annex the Baltics and de-facto annex those parts of Europe that he had captured.

[Rodney King]

To go further... that is like saying in 1941 "Well, we should just settle with Germany that they control Europe, we wouldn't be giving them anything that they haven't already captured."

[AuH2ORepublican]

"Sure he did: permission to keep what he had captured."

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Absolutely. Greeley acts as if the only choice when you know you can't (or don't have the will) to right a wrong is to accept it and give your seal of approval. The ACLU knows that it doesn't have the votes to defeat marriage protection amendments in most states, so does Greeley suggest that the ACLU *endorse* marriage protection amendments even though its members oppose such amendments? Even if FDR couldn't have gotten Stalin out of the Baltics and Eastern Europe, he could have still expressed his opposition to such tyranny.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Bingo.

[ClaireSolt]

I am really getting sick of this infantile Bush lied stuff. I feel like I am stuck in a room with a bunch of imbeciles who keep saying the same thing over and over. Even if one grants him the point that there was not much more America could do or wanted to do, it does no harm to acknowledge that living under Soviet opprssion was bad and liberation is a cause for rejoicing. It also goes without saying that their security is their own responsibility both then and now, and if they want to be free they'd better wise up and forget about the 35 hour work week and stuff like that.

[Inwoodian]

Greeley staes that there was nothing much that could have been done to extirpate the USSR from states in Eastern Europe which it had already occupied. Funny, I don't remember the Allies occupying France, Italy, Netherlands or anyplace else after the War except West Germany and West Berlin. These were occupied long enough for the Germans to gather themselves up as a democratic nation. Pinkos like Greeley continued to love and laud the Commies knowing full well that they had stretched their empire by means of a boot on the throats of the occupied. Paging Alger (Ales) Hiss, Comrade Hiss, your bosses are calling.