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To: wjersey


They couldn't dismantle it and use it for scrap metal?!?

Seems like a colossal waste to me.


3 posted on 05/20/2005 7:12:57 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: Josh in PA
This is the government we're talking about, colossal waste is the only thing they excel at...
5 posted on 05/20/2005 7:15:07 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: Josh in PA
They couldn't dismantle it and use it for scrap metal?!?

They were doing experiments, methinks.

6 posted on 05/20/2005 7:15:18 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Josh in PA
They couldn't dismantle it and use it for scrap metal?!?

Environmental regulations in the US are such that scrapping the ship would turn out to be unbelievably expensive.

Only place left in the world where a ship can be scrapped and make money off it is India (you may have seen the documentaries on it, they drag the ships up on the beach); however, it would be extremely easy for, say, Chicom agents to crawl all over the ship and examine it if that were done.

7 posted on 05/20/2005 7:15:55 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Josh in PA

My thought too. Probably would cost more in labor to dismantle it but it surely would have made a nice floating prison or homeless shelter, etc.


9 posted on 05/20/2005 7:17:59 AM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Josh in PA
They couldn't dismantle it and use it for scrap metal?!?

The tests were to study the effect of certain types of explosives (weapons) on the hull. What they learn from this will save lives on future ships, probably as early as the USS George H. W. Bush, currently under construction. Certainly not a colossal waste.

11 posted on 05/20/2005 7:20:04 AM PDT by Tatze (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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To: Josh in PA

Ditto, doesn't make sense not to salvage something, what a waste of taxpayers money.


15 posted on 05/20/2005 7:22:13 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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"Sinking of the America - which was allowed under law only because it was part of an approved fleet exercise - cost $22 million, the Navy said. Scrapping it at a shipyard could have cost triple."

From the article.

16 posted on 05/20/2005 7:22:13 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Josh in PA

Modern supercarriers have never been subjected to attack and therefore there is little real-world engineering data on how the design bears up. The explosive tests that eventually killed the ship simulated enemy attack, measuring precisely how the ship survives bombardment. That data will be factored into the design of the new class CV.


Better protecting the next several generations of carrier sailors seems a cause worthy of the sacrifice of a gallant ship.


22 posted on 05/20/2005 7:25:17 AM PDT by tlb
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Think about this - for maybe the first and only time, weapons manufacturers (and users) get to try out their weapons designed to take out an enemy ship the size of the America. Many of these weapons are designed and built using acquired knowledge from years of experiments and extrapolation. Yet, the real test is "weapon against an actual intended target" to see if it meets design expectations.

The America, whose worthy and honorable past would be enough by itself, continued to serve the Navy and the men and women in uniform through the sacrifice of itself for knowledge sake. Salutes rendered!


23 posted on 05/20/2005 7:25:48 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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Salvage??? This ship carried thousands of tons of avgas, diesel, lubricants, explosives, electrical insulation, and surely nuclear weapons for more than 30 years. It was in effect a floating toxic waste dump that no scrap yard would take. Notice they scuttled it carefully rather than using the Navy's favorite way of getting rid of old ships: live war shots.


34 posted on 05/20/2005 7:33:43 AM PDT by GRANGER (Earth First -- We'll log the other planets later.)
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To: Josh in PA

That's what I was thinking. If ever there was a case for recycling, an aircraft carrier is it!!!


35 posted on 05/20/2005 7:34:00 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Josh in PA

"They couldn't dismantle it and use it for scrap metal?!? "

Probably cost a fortune due to environmental concerns. They used asbestos on steam lines.


67 posted on 05/20/2005 8:17:39 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Josh in PA

Probably chocked full of asbestos. Too expensive to dismantle and comply with removal protocols.


73 posted on 05/20/2005 8:24:34 AM PDT by frithguild (Defining hypocrisy - Liberals fear liberty.)
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To: Josh in PA

It was a golden opportunity to test damage models to see if it jibes with reality. AC's are big boys, and my guess is they did this up so the naval architects and engineers could learn something from a 'modern' AC getting torpedoed and sunk.


83 posted on 05/20/2005 9:24:28 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.)
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