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Bob Dole: A unique case of obstruction
Washington Times ^
| May 19, 2005
| Robert Dole
Posted on 05/19/2005 4:18:01 PM PDT by RWR8189
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posted on
05/19/2005 4:18:04 PM PDT
by
RWR8189
To: RWR8189
How dare the Sen Dole bring up the Fortas case. We all know that this behavior couldn't have been that of a Democrap. Just ask Gov Dean and he'll tell you that Rpublicans are evil and dems are the ..... (actually they're the crooks but heck wouldn't want to tell the truth would we!) MEGA SARCASM ALEERT
To: RWR8189
fortas was a slime just like lbj was. Don't get me started!
FMCDH(BITS)
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posted on
05/19/2005 4:29:54 PM PDT
by
nothingnew
(I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
To: RWR8189
For the first time, judicial nominees with clear majority support are denied an up-or-down vote on the Senate floor through an unprecedented use of the filibuster. This is not a misrepresentation of history; it's a fact.
Tell the Numbskull Nine to go fry ice. Call the vote, get them on the record. GOP and the voters can deal with it from there.
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posted on
05/19/2005 4:35:08 PM PDT
by
sirthomasthemore
(I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
To: RWR8189
I didn't read the rest of the article, so Dole may say this, but the Fortas filibuster was done as a favor to Fortas. He didn't have the votes to be confirmed, and so, to keep Fortas from the shame of being voted down, they filibustered him so Fortas could withdraw. By the way... both Dems and GOP voted against cloture - it was bipartisan.
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posted on
05/19/2005 4:36:21 PM PDT
by
So Cal Rocket
(Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
To: sirthomasthemore
YOU ARE RIGHT WE WILL DEAL WITH THEM AT VOTING BOOTH. THOSE WHO WILL GIVE THEM UP OR DOWN VOTE WILL BE GONE JUST LIKE TOM DASCHLE AND TOME FOLEY.
I HAVE WRITTEN AND SENT BACK LETTER TO RNC TO SAY NO MORE MONEY, NO MORE VOTE TILL WE GET UP OR DOWN VOTE. AND FOR THEM TO STARD UP FOR TOM DELAY AND BOLTON.
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posted on
05/19/2005 4:38:47 PM PDT
by
ducks1944
(GOD BLESS THE USA ! !)
To: RWR8189
To: RWR8189
>>>The Senate debated the Fortas nomination only for several days before Johnson withdrew the nomination, versus the four years some of President Bush's nominees have been pending.<<<<
pig's feet to oranges. is that all they got to compare with? rock on Dole.
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posted on
05/19/2005 4:44:55 PM PDT
by
sdpatriot
(remember waco and ruby ridge)
To: sirthomasthemore
I was asleep most of the day, so I didn't watch any news on the Senate Circus.
Can anyone tell me how it went today ?
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posted on
05/19/2005 4:57:55 PM PDT
by
Prophet in the wilderness
(PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
To: So Cal Rocket
the Fortas filibuster was done as a favor to Fortas. Dole's main points were:
- Fortas lacked a majority so it wasn't even really a fillibuster - there wasn't a majority that was demanding a vote (which is not inconsistent with what you say),
- Fortas was under an ethical cloud, which eventually brought him down,
- Fortas' nomination was only debated for several days, and
- Fortas' opposition and his suppot were both bipartisan.
In addition, Dole notes that as Republican leader in the Senate he was troubled by some Clinton nominees and in one case voted against confirmation - after he had voted for cloture to bring the issue to to a vote. None of the above is true of Bush's appelate court nominees or of the Democrats' obstruction of the voting on their confirmation.
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posted on
05/19/2005 4:58:19 PM PDT
by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
To: RWR8189
It's a shame this article has to be excerpted. Mr. Dole does an outstanding job of explaining what happened with Fortas.
He was NOT filibustered:
After less than a week, the Senate leadership tried to shut down debate. At that time, two-thirds of the senators voting were needed to do so, yet only 45 senators supported the motion. Of the 43 senators who still wished to debate the nomination, 24 were Republicans and 19 were Democrats. President Johnson saw the writing on the wall -- that Fortas did not have 51 senators in support of his nomination -- so he withdrew the nomination before debate could be completed.
Here's a link to the
printer friendly version.
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posted on
05/19/2005 4:58:26 PM PDT
by
upchuck
("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
To: Prophet in the wilderness
Sorry Prophet, I couldn't watch it, and wouldn't if I could. But, there is a 3,000 post thread on the sidebar if you want the play by play.
In my view, this is soooo nothing. The current prevailing view is that there are 9 Pubs undecided on how to vote on the nuclear option.
If I were Dr. Frist, I tell these power broker wannabees to kiss my stethoscope. If you're not with the GOP on this transcendent issue that GWB's nominees that passed through committee deserve an up or down vote, than switch parties and no longer enjoy the label GOP- you freaking traitors.
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posted on
05/19/2005 5:07:31 PM PDT
by
sirthomasthemore
(I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
To: sirthomasthemore
If I were Frist, I have have all of those 9 Spineless Pubbies in a room, and have them try to imagine, our country 5- 10 20 years down the road, and have them think about their children, and grand children, and have them say to themselves ?
What kind of America do I and the rest of my fellow Pubbies want to leave for the next few generations ?
Do I and the rest of these Pubbies want to leave a America that in someway resembles the America our passed generations enjoyed ? or a America more like Cuber, or China ? or and for GOD sakes no, EU ?
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posted on
05/19/2005 5:14:19 PM PDT
by
Prophet in the wilderness
(PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
To: RWR8189
I'm very glad that Dole is publicizing the truth about Fortas.
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posted on
05/19/2005 5:21:24 PM PDT
by
syriacus
(Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
To: ducks1944
YOU ARE RIGHT WE WILL DEAL WITH THEM AT VOTING BOOTH Uh, we have already dealt with them at the voting booth, but yet both parties still don't recognize the results.
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posted on
05/19/2005 5:22:20 PM PDT
by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: sirthomasthemore
If I were Dr. Frist, I tell these power broker wannabees to kiss my stethoscope. If you're not with the GOP on this transcendent issue that GWB's nominees that passed through committee deserve an up or down vote, than switch parties and no longer enjoy the label GOP- you freaking traitors. Agreed.
I would rather be the minority party after kicking out all the RINOs. Then, we can filibuster the Marxist proposals.
A RINOs is more despicable than a flaming liberal. One is a closet Marrxist, the other is an in-your-face Marxist--but, they are BOTH traitors to the Constitution.
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posted on
05/19/2005 5:26:12 PM PDT
by
Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
(John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
To: Prophet in the wilderness
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posted on
05/19/2005 5:38:45 PM PDT
by
sirthomasthemore
(I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
To: sirthomasthemore
I was watching it yesterday, and when Up Chuck Schumer was talking, I had to puke, and turn it off.
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posted on
05/19/2005 5:42:13 PM PDT
by
Prophet in the wilderness
(PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
To: RWR8189
Dole can still sharpen the knife when he wants to.
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posted on
05/19/2005 5:46:13 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: jwalsh07
Dole can still sharpen the knife when he wants to.
And stick you, too....and all with one hand!
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posted on
05/19/2005 5:50:09 PM PDT
by
sirthomasthemore
(I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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