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NASA Challenge: Pull Oxygen from Moon Dirt, Win $250,000
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| 05/19/05
| Tarig Malik
Posted on 05/19/2005 2:49:40 PM PDT by KevinDavis
NASA has promised a cool $250,000 for the first team capable of pulling breathable oxygen from mock moon dirt, the latest award in the space agencys Centennial Challenges program.
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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: moondirt; nasa; prizes; spaceprizes
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:50:08 PM PDT
by
KevinDavis
(Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
To: KevinDavis
On earth possible oxygen in air around dirt. In space vacuum no oxygen real hard.
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:52:36 PM PDT
by
handy old one
(It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
To: KevinDavis
um. do we have enough moon-dirt here on which to do trials? or are they going to do trials on simulacra made here? or what?
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:52:57 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
To: KevinDavis
call me an old fart, and I probably am, but when you can suck O2 out of a rock, I missed that in school a billion years ago.
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:53:05 PM PDT
by
hadaclueonce
(shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
To: handy old one
IIUC, they mean along the lines of cracking the molecules to liberate free oxyden.
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:53:49 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
To: hadaclueonce
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:54:07 PM PDT
by
jbwbubba
To: KevinDavis
NASA budget up for funding by any chance?
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:54:17 PM PDT
by
hadaclueonce
(shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
To: hadaclueonce
You could theoretically make Ovygen from anything....it would just take LOTS of energy i dont know how they will extract it from Rock easily using less energy... I remember there was a time nasa would solve these problems by themselves.
To: Xenophon450
Ovygen is good but Oxygen is even better...
To: hadaclueonce
common sand is silicon dioxide, IIRC...
yeah: SiO2
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:56:25 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
To: hadaclueonce
Most earth based rock is made out of quartz in one way or another. Sand, for example, is quartz, and sandstone is made out of sand.
Quartz is silicon dioxide. So the trick, I guess, is to separate the oxygen atom from the silicon. That seems like it would take a lot of energy.
And of course, that's assuming that there is quartz on the moon.
To: Xenophon450
Start with the He3 that's up there and maybe you have your power source. What is the composition of the crust, SiO2? other oxides?
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posted on
05/19/2005 2:58:47 PM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
(NEWSWEEK LIED, PEOPLE DIED)
To: KevinDavis
I remember a symposium many years ago, some guy had an idea for this. Apparently moon dirt contains a lot of iron oxide. Use a solar concentrator to melt the iron oxide -- thus liberating oxygen, and as a byproduct producing iron, which could be used to make additional concentrators....
No idea if it's realistic, but it sounds awfully interesting.
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posted on
05/19/2005 3:00:15 PM PDT
by
r9etb
To: r9etb
Going to need energy to get oxygen from rocks. When are they planning on sending nuclear power plants up there?
To: KevinDavis
Me thinks NASA should CHALLANGE themselves to replace that Russian POS oxygen generator the prematurely failed on the Space Station before they run out of emergency oxygen in the next 150 days.
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posted on
05/19/2005 3:06:35 PM PDT
by
Useless_eater_on_steroids
("We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." -- Aesop)
To: KevinDavis
Oh c'mon, can this be done?... or are they pulling our leg? Just curious!
To: Brilliant
I assume there must be. I also assume it must be budget time for NASA.
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posted on
05/19/2005 3:07:13 PM PDT
by
hadaclueonce
(shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
To: KevinDavis
Extract oyxgen from rocks? Piece of cake; you start with a tank oxygen...
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posted on
05/19/2005 3:08:25 PM PDT
by
randog
(What the....?!)
To: NonValueAdded
That's what I thought too - the He3 would make the ideal power source for however they decide to do this.
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