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Cancer patient from Meredith ordered by judge to pay bill
Laconia Citizen ^ | May 19, 2005 | Bea Lewis

Posted on 05/19/2005 7:14:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble

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To: Jim Noble

LRGH sucks. I avoid taking my kids there and prefer Concord. However, I had to use the emergency room once when my son broke his arm two years ago and had to wait over two hours for the "on call" bone Doc to come in.


61 posted on 05/19/2005 8:15:06 AM PDT by corlorde (Without the home of the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Maybe they simply couldn't afford to keep it.

No, they could afford it. They dropped the coverage to redirect that money elsewhere.

62 posted on 05/19/2005 8:15:40 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: rhombus
"It's up to us to call the doctor's offices and hospitals on these unnecessary tests and charges.

Easy to say when one knows they are unnecessary. A little harder call to make when it comes to tumors, eh?"

Yes, you are speaking about the unknown, and I am using a scenario of known facts.

Another scenario: Let's say I go in for arthroscopic surgery knowing that I will be given a knee brace and crutches, why don't I decline those, thereby reducing the medical burden to my health insurer, and use the knee brace and crutches that are already in my closet, given to me from the initial injury?

If we are going to be diligent in participating in our health maintenance plan, being directly involved in the decrease of health costs/expenses should be our responsibility also.
63 posted on 05/19/2005 8:17:23 AM PDT by peacebaby (I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man, I keep his house. Zsa Zsa Gabor)
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To: babygene
I bet half the people on this thread have no clue as to what medical insurance for a 50 something husband and wife costs...

That is irrelevant to this couple and their situation. They did not drop their insurance because it was too expensive and they couldn't afford it. They dropped their insurance to spend the money elsewhere.

64 posted on 05/19/2005 8:19:06 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: NYorkerInHouston

You're a doctor in Houston?

Would you see me without involving insurance, and charge me a reasonable fee, if I paid cash?


65 posted on 05/19/2005 8:20:06 AM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: Jim Noble
I wonder how fast medical costs would have risen had we not had some 10 million Illegals leeching off the system.

Yes, the Houghs gambled and lost. But they are attempting to pay it as best they can.

What bothers me is this:
"A Superior Court judge has ordered her and her husband, sued by Lakes Region General Hospital for non-payment of medical bills, to make payment secured by an attachment on their home."

If this was not part of the original agreement/contract signed by both parties, it should not be added now.
66 posted on 05/19/2005 8:20:38 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: peacebaby
The object of health insurance is not to cover the common cold or hangnail, but to cover catastrophic health problems. Unfortunately, much of the general public doesn't think in this mindset.

Health insurance is NOT for catastrophic health. It is for hospitalization, doctor visits and prescriptions. They now sell catastrophic health coverage separately. Ain't that wonderful!!

Health insurance used to be called hospitalization and it ONLY covered hospitalizations and the Dr if he visited you in the hospital. If you had major medical it would cover some portion of your office calls IF you first met the deductible. Dr. offices did not used to be packed with whining...patients. And doctors did not have the huge malpractice premiums. So who can you blame for high health costs??

67 posted on 05/19/2005 8:21:37 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: moehoward

Any party who has won a suit against someone for owed financial compensation can place a lien on that persons home for the money owed. It doesn't have to be part of a contract or agreement earlier entered into. The attachment is often referred to as a Mechanics Lien.


68 posted on 05/19/2005 8:23:40 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: theFIRMbss
What's this story's point? ... Where's the thread going?

I suspect the point of the story was to scare people into accepting single-payer insurance IOWs nationalized healthcare.

69 posted on 05/19/2005 8:24:47 AM PDT by TigersEye ("It's a Republic if you can keep it." - B. Franklin)
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To: Trout-Mouth

"The object of health insurance is not to cover the common cold or hangnail, but to cover catastrophic health problems. ....Health insurance is NOT for catastrophic health. It is for hospitalization, doctor visits and prescriptions. They now sell catastrophic health coverage separately... ."

Hmmmm, I'll rethink. But having been a licensed insurance agent, it has always been my opinion that medical insurance was for catastrophic health problems. I'll admit to having been out of the insurance industry for 10 years.


70 posted on 05/19/2005 8:27:43 AM PDT by peacebaby (I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man, I keep his house. Zsa Zsa Gabor)
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To: Jim Noble
A person should have to pay their debts but I agree with states like Florida which make your home exempt from judgements.

I don't know what the limits are but basically your homestead cannot be reached through judgements.

71 posted on 05/19/2005 8:28:53 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Xenalyte

Yes, I practice Neurology here and see predominantly patients with epilepsy. I do see people without insurance. The fees my office charges are set by the government (based on procedure code) but for self pay patients I've made arrangements for a percentage of that. Most testing is performed through the hospital and they charge their own fees and can be negotiated with as well.


72 posted on 05/19/2005 8:31:18 AM PDT by NYorkerInHouston
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To: peacebaby
If we are going to be diligent in participating in our health maintenance plan, being directly involved in the decrease of health costs/expenses should be our responsibility also.

You aren't getting an argument from me on personal responsibility. However, I also think we need to limit the litigation business enjoyed by so many. You aren't an attorney are you ;-)

73 posted on 05/19/2005 8:31:29 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Phantom Lord

Sure, liens are placed on property as a result from judgments.
I think a Mechanic's lien would be a different animal.

Point is they were making the arranged payments. This wasn't fast enough for this hospital. Looks like this particular facility is impatient quite often.

"...... Superior Court shows the hospital filed 165 such suits last year...."


74 posted on 05/19/2005 8:36:23 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: rhombus

Yes, I agree that the practice of unnecessary malpractice lawsuits is damaging our health care industry. I've seen doctors go out of business because of it. I personally had to have a c-section (major surgery) rather than natural birth because the OBGYN was afraid of lawsuits.

C-section is major surgery requiring two, three or more days in the hospital. Natural birth, and you might leave the hospital the next day.


75 posted on 05/19/2005 8:39:27 AM PDT by peacebaby (I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man, I keep his house. Zsa Zsa Gabor)
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To: NYorkerInHouston

Hmmm . . . I have PLMD and RLS, so I do see a neurologist whose name I bet you'd know.

$130 office visits are just insane, even if insurance DOES cover the rest of it. Nothing happens to me in my 30 minutes in that office that costs the doctor more than $10, and that's all labor, and way jacked-up if you consider the sum total of the labor involved is to whack my knee with that little rubber axe..


76 posted on 05/19/2005 8:48:49 AM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: Jim Noble

>>received treatment for breast cancer at the hospital between Aug. 2, 2004 and June 28, 2004<<

????


77 posted on 05/19/2005 8:56:10 AM PDT by 1L
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To: StuLongIsland
Solution: Become a Mexican Citizen and come here illegally, you are covered.

Exactly!! That's the only way to make it these days. Jobs, Medicaid, food stamps, free legal, dental and eye coverage, etc. makes it very tempting doesn't it? LOL It's no wonder we're having an invasion.

78 posted on 05/19/2005 8:58:12 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (Under Construction.)
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To: peacebaby
I have a teacher neighbor who recently (December) had a brain tumor and was in very bad shape after surgery. She was transferred to a rehab center approximately late-Jan and when her insurance ran out she was discharged. The rehab center did not feel she was ready to be discharged. She cannot walk yet. I believe her insurance is through the State and is a very good insurance.

And catastrophic insurance is a separate premium--even at the State. I am not sure the State even offers a group plan?

79 posted on 05/19/2005 9:09:29 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: peacebaby

The Dr and the hospital make more money on C-sections not to mention the convenience. I think litigation is a scapegoat for this.


80 posted on 05/19/2005 9:10:40 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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