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To: Alberta's Child; NYer
Keeler could not be reached for comment Wednesday night. His spokesman did not elaborate on the decision, but confirmed it was because of Giuliani's abortion stance.

I'm sure Rudy's speech isn't about abortion. If Cardinal Keeler doesn't want to attend because of Rudy's views on this matter is one thing; however, Rudy was selected by the college because of his courage and leadership.

We don't entirely agree with every speaker's point of views, and it's not necessary either.

174 posted on 05/19/2005 11:38:03 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
We don't entirely agree with every speaker's point of views, and it's not necessary either.

So if he was a neo-Nazi or Klansman, but wasn't going to talk about it, the cardinal should attend?

180 posted on 05/19/2005 1:41:56 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul; ninenot; sittnick
For Catholics who are actually Catholic, our Faith is infinitely more important than honoring the conceded courage and effectiveness after 9/11 of a pro-abortion Catholic. By allowing him to appear by invitation at a Catholic function much less to award him an honorary degree is to betray Catholic dogma and violate Catholic discipline. That would be true if he were not Catholic at all but were pro-abort.

Ought Loyola College to award an honorary degree and status as primary speaker at its graduation to someone who says that Nazism or Communism was just another political philosophy and admirable in various respects? I don't think so either.

It ill behooves institutions using the Catholic trademark of a Faith that teaches that 45-50 million dead innocent babies in the USA are victims of judicial/political murder to honor a political opportunist (he probably recognizes the reality of abortion as murder privately) of any Faith much less our own who claims that it is OK to kill the kids.

Our society can and will pay the price for those 45-50 million dead innocents. Our society has no business expecting the Catholic Church to ratify the societal crimes of SCOTUS and the USA against the unborn.

Whatever his virtues, until Rudy publicly repents, he is not fit to address any Catholic institution, not fit to be on stage at any Catholic function, and, like John Kerry, not fit to receive the Eucharist. Catholic property (like Loyola University claims to be), is as much in control of Catholic authority as your front porch is in control of your personal authority.

199 posted on 05/20/2005 1:29:14 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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