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To: mrreaganaut
It was this vision that realized a 'Great White Fleet' to seek out new life and new civilizations, and to bring the blessings of the American Way (the liberal Western political and cultural tradition) to those without.

Of course minus the fact that this was not the intent of the Framers. What sickens me is that those who would advocate such actions of 'helping other nations' will invoke the names of the Framers. The problem is that most that listen to these speeches don't realize, or more don't care, that those men would have been disgusted at such action

However, no one can seriously argue that oppression is intended when we try to help other countries out of their problems

What was that catchphrase about good intentions and the road to hell? Oppression may not be intended however real conservatives would question if it's any of our business if the nation in question does not represent a clear and present danger to the borders of this nation of states. Contrary to current administration belief, it is not the business of this nation of states to 'spread democracy', commit to 'regime change', or be in the business of 'nation building'

66 posted on 05/19/2005 6:15:26 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears

What sickens me is when people mix up cause and effect to try to dodge their way out of losing an argument. Events are loosely called 'evil' when they cause harm, whether intentionally caused, accidentally caused, or by 'Act of God.' People are evil when they intend unjustified harm; The Empire of the movie and modern America are charged with intending harm, that is, being evil. Being incompetent, or paving the road to Hell, is beside the point. Read your St. Augustine!


80 posted on 05/31/2005 1:29:07 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (Sticks and stones may break my bones, but lawyer jokes are actionable.)
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