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To: Hi Heels
families take responsibilities for their elder generations

Yes, families, NOT government. Mom and Dad don't get SSI yet, and probably won't need it. It would be nice if they get what they were promised, but I'd doubt it. I, personally, don't expect to get anything back even though I've already paid more than most people ever will. I have no more faith in the system the way it is than I do in any pyramid scheme.

I never singled out you or anyone personally, and humbly admited paiting with a broad brush. I don't recall saying "let them starve", but I will stand firm on the point that no one has the right to pilfer my property to benifit someone else even if they are starving. One may ask for my help, but it is improper for one to demand it. If someone didn't properly prepare themselves for retirement, why is that my problem? It is morally corrupt to force one to pay for the irresposibility of others. I also don't buy in to the "society" organism. Only individuals can make responsible decisions - a society cannot.

Thanks for doing your part over the years to further the cause of freedom.

112 posted on 05/23/2005 12:16:31 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: numberonepal
"Mom and Dad don't get SSI yet, and probably won't need it."

Not everyone's mom and dad are so fortunate. Some people banked on the program that was demanded, not offered, to them. It was REQUIRED to put the money in the account. It was not an OPTION. There was no way that Joe Six Pack could determine that SSI would be overextended. They relied on their elected officials to monitor that. I certainly didn't dream the system up and don't care to take responsibility for the collapse of a system that was in place before I joined the work force. And if your parents don't need the money, let them raise your standard high and don't collect it. *shrug* They may have some objection to that notion, however.

"I, personally, don't expect to get anything back even though I've already paid more than most people ever will."

Welcome to the club. How does that make me guilty and you NOT?

"I never singled out you or anyone personally, and humbly admited paiting with a broad brush."

If you paint with a broad brush, expect to be PAINTED with one.

"I don't recall saying "let them starve""

Nope, but you ARE the one who said "the Boomers let the left take over" and your opinion of the situation was obvious. Besides, I was painting with a broad brush. I don't know what you expect to happen if seniors are denied the SSI they put in, if they are denied an income after they are too old to work. If no retirement is to come from the program they have been funding their entire life, many will starve. And if you attack a group of people simply because of when they were born, based on some preconceived notion of left wing politics and broadly accuse them of bad judgement as a whole thus eliminating their rights to money and a program they've been paying into their whole life, you can expect some to come forward and object.

Did you attack me personally? No. Did I attack YOU personally? No. Are you reacting as if I did? Yup. Maybe the problem with you Gen X'ers *whips out another broad brush* is that you're quick to point at anyone else but yourselves. Come on! Yer a brilliant, successful business man! What's the solution? How you gonna keep granny off dogchow?....

"no one has the right to pilfer my property"

DITTO. I also will not accept defamations from a self-proclaimed success, broad brushed or not, after working my fannie off my entire life. I will not be labelled by someone 20 years my junior as someone who planned poorly and lead some left wing movement. Not a chance, sonnie. There are more in my generation because our parents, your grandparents, were repopulating the country after a war. Big deal. Too many coming through SSI because of this population boom. It's a problem. System needs work. Fine. Then let's resolve a problem, not reward hard work with a slap in the face.

114 posted on 05/23/2005 2:09:53 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Guns kill and cause crime? Dang, mine must be malfunctioning....)
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