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To: LNewman

While I'm sympathetic to Californians wanting to ensure their stoop labor supply, why should a guest worker program have the carrot of citizenship at the end.

Migrant agriculture workers are just that: migrants who follow the crops from state to state, but many return to Mexico during the fallow season while others remain in the US and seek other employment or welfare. How would you ever keep track of who is staying permanently at agricultural jobs?.


4 posted on 05/18/2005 7:18:20 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill
How would you ever keep track of who is staying permanently at agricultural jobs?.

Under Feinstein's idea, which hasn't yet been finalized, longtime undocumented agricultural workers would get a "blue card," allowing them to continue to work in agriculture. After a period of years of continued agricultural work, they would be entitled to trade in their blue card for a "green card."

There is nothing new here, the SAW program in the mid 80s did the same thing. The result was as soon as the illegal aliens in agg received their valid immigration cards they left agg for better jobs in construction or the service industry. (I am sure all of us would do the same)

This created a labor shortage in agg into which an entire new generation of illegal aliens rushed into fill the vacuum. Proposals like this always result in more illegal immigration. IMHO the only program that will help is a non-immigrant guest worker program with no link to formal immigration. Guest workers could apply for permanent residence status while working as a guest worker, but they would have to wait in line like everyone else.

23 posted on 05/18/2005 8:06:51 AM PDT by usurper (Correct spelling is overrated)
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To: wildbill
While I'm sympathetic to Californians wanting to ensure their stoop labor supply

Most California citizens DON'T WANT THIS, it's the politicians who push it.

38 posted on 05/18/2005 8:54:58 AM PDT by janetgreen (Minuteman Project = American Patriotism)
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To: wildbill

For many years it appeared the wine industry was on its way to total mechanization of the harvest. Then the INS stopped it's raids (which used to drive the wineries and grape growers nuts). Now picking machines are few and far between. The excuse for their non use is that they BRUISE the grapes and the invading foreign national pickers are so much kinder to the vines!!


41 posted on 05/18/2005 9:10:27 AM PDT by tertiary01 (Help.....I'm a victim of Mexican imperialism.)
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To: wildbill
I meet more and more people who are out of a job because they were replaced by Mexican workers.These guys usually work in construction or a job in the building industry.The owners of the companies are replacing an American worker making $17 an hour with two Mexicans making $8 an hour.There's no way for even a single guy to live off of such a low wage never mind support a family.It won't be long until the majority of the jobs that require physical labor are filled with illegal immigrants.There might be some truth to the claim that they take the jobs Americans won't do but they also are taking jobs that those who didn't go to college have been relying on for many years.
45 posted on 05/18/2005 9:57:01 AM PDT by rdcorso (To Fight And Win The War On Terror We Must Secure Our Borders Now.)
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