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The Real Lesson of Newsweekgate
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | May 18, 2005 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 05/18/2005 5:35:20 AM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 05/18/2005 5:35:20 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
I'm still waiting for an avant-garde artist to create a 'Piss_Mohammed' (that is, Mohammed in a bottle of urine) and put it on display in an art gallery somewhere.

It's going to be a long wait, I'm sure.

2 posted on 05/18/2005 5:39:13 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: SJackson

The MSM has become a poitical party. They all want to play "Watergate".


3 posted on 05/18/2005 5:39:33 AM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: SJackson
It all goes back to the fact that Islam is the religion of peace...ahem...pieces.
4 posted on 05/18/2005 5:41:58 AM PDT by cwiz24 (I worked very hard on this tagline.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...

If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.


5 posted on 05/18/2005 5:42:03 AM PDT by SJackson (I don't think the red-tiled roofs are as sturdy as my asbestos one, Palestinian refugee)
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To: SJackson

Bingo.


6 posted on 05/18/2005 5:42:45 AM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: SJackson
Some of us (certainly most freepers) know that they are savages; however, the reason I see for the Newsweek lied; people died remark is because payback is a bitch.

A lot of us were sick and tired of the interminable smear of the President; the Bush lied; people died crap that we decided to have some fun ourselves. Revenge is a dish best served cold. >>>veg<<<

7 posted on 05/18/2005 5:43:08 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: SJackson

The real lesson is hate blinds.


8 posted on 05/18/2005 5:44:18 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: SJackson

Of course he has a huge point - a culture that stones women and exempts men from same action, where fathers murder their own daughters, is not one that has any right to complain about extremism. And defacing a book, no matter how holy, is certainly not extreme.

I think the Newsweek participants need to be charged with treason (where are the lawyers when we need them?) and as far as anything remotely resembling an apology, it can come from Newsweek and not from our administration.

And where is the Republican backbone we have been looking for? I can't believe the pathetic reactions we are reading about - including Ms. Rice's comments - we the people of the United States have done nothing to the moslem world. They need to aim their anger at the real culprits.

And that is precisely the problem - Newsweek's lies and corruption have brought the anger of the moslem world on all of us, because that is the way the story has been spun.

And Newsweek knew that would happen. They should be shot.


9 posted on 05/18/2005 5:47:15 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Dallas59

You are exactly right. Ever since woodward and bernstein, every branch of the media, print, TV, and Radio, has tried to find something that would top it, and hasn't been able to. They have resorted to making stuff up, or sensationalizing a story- memogate, abu Ghraib, quran desecration, et al.


10 posted on 05/18/2005 5:48:41 AM PDT by timtoews5292004
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To: SJackson
"The gorilla in the living room that no one wants to notice, is that flushing a Qur’an down the toilet should not be grounds to commit murder.



NOTE: For the edification the mental defectives that keep making excuses for Islam: The "gorilla in the living room" is that the religion [?] of Moe Hammed is an instruction guide for the death of all self-described infidels. Yes, it is that plain and simple.

The muslims wish to destroy, not only Israel, not only America, but anyone and anything not Muslim.

The sooner we realize that little fact of life the better we will do our job of eradicating them from the world, or at the very least, negate them.

11 posted on 05/18/2005 5:48:54 AM PDT by G.Mason ( Save the Republic from the shallow, demagogic sectarians.)
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To: SJackson
Newweek was deliberate in its ongoing agenda of Bush-hating. They hate the Republicans and military.
This was pointed out to O'Reilly last night and he said that the anti-military attitude wasn't so bad. And the speaker said that it really was ANTI-MILITARY and Newweek HAS been bashing the military for YEARS and YEARS.

The entire liberal agenda deserves flushing, mainly because it seeks to destroy the fabric of our society.

This liberal NEWSWEAK-rag deserves flushing.

12 posted on 05/18/2005 5:52:44 AM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: Tarpon

Muslims the world over are obsessed with people agreeing with them. If a person has a strong belief why, they do not need someone else to agree for it to be right. Even if the Quran flushing story were true, why should a Muslim kill someone else over it. This behaviour is just another symptom over a religion that promotes emotional immaturity and justfies killing anyone that does not agree with them. They have been like this for 1000 years and it really shows a "very low self esteem" about themselves which is why they must have everyone agree with them.

The MSM obviously is borderline endorsing these killings by not discussing the behaviour of the Mulsims in killing but only talking about the Newsweek story.

Islam is a barbaric death cult and most Americans do not realize or want to believe that. We continue to deal with them in a politically correct manner and believe reason will work with them. There simple goal is to convert the world to Islam and nothing less will appease them. The USA is the last barrier to that happening and the MSM is the enemy within in this fight.


13 posted on 05/18/2005 5:52:51 AM PDT by Maneesh
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To: snarks_when_bored

I am working on 'Piss_Kennedy'


14 posted on 05/18/2005 5:55:23 AM PDT by woofie
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To: SJackson

What makes Spencer believe that political correctness is involved in the Cole and Marshall takes on the story? Of course, there are various aspects to the story. Spencer wants to emphasize the the brutal nature of fundamentalist Muslims. Fine. This is a lesson learned many times, especially in the last ten years. However, both Cole and Marshall understand that the more important political lesson involves whether the MSM can be exposed as an appeaser in the WOT and as an unreliable dispenser of information. Cole wants the blame to fall to President Bush, because he hates America above all else. Conservatives generally want to undermine the credibility of the biased media. The conservatives are winning this round. Spencer does a disservice to distract from that fact.


15 posted on 05/18/2005 5:57:00 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: SJackson
This article hits the nail on the head. I said the same thing yesterday. Specifically,

The Islamic fundamentalists have intimidated us. Khomeini put out an order to kill Simon Rushdie for what he wrote about the Koran. Pakistaini mobs burned down the US Embassy in Islamabad on November 21, 1979 based on a rumor that Americans were behind the takeover of the Grand Mosque at Mecca.

As much as I feel revulsion for Newsweek's unsubstantiated allegations, I think more attention should be paid to the reaction of the Muslim world. Why do we seem to excuse this extreme behavior and blame it on the West? If a rumor arose that said a group of Muslims had flushed a bible down a toliet and in response, a crowd of Christians surrounded a mosque and burned it down killing 16 people, would we focus on the source of the rumor and not the excesive reaction of the Christians?

What this incident reveals, as if we didn't know already, is that we are dealing with irrational zealots who want to kill us using any pretext. Unfortunately, I don't believe this extremism is limited to a fringe group in Islam, but represents the majority. We avoid saying that we are indeed involved in a clash of civilizations. Islam needs to change and become part of the 21st century. It is at war with Western Civilization.

16 posted on 05/18/2005 6:01:52 AM PDT by kabar
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To: snarks_when_bored

I'm still waiting for an avant-garde artist to create a 'Piss_Mohammed' (that is, Mohammed in a bottle of urine) and put it on display in an art gallery somewhere. It's going to be a long wait, I'm sure.

Yes, nobody wants to be another Simon Rushdie condemned to being in hiding the rest of his/her life or dead.

17 posted on 05/18/2005 6:07:05 AM PDT by kabar
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To: woofie
I am working on 'Piss_Kennedy'

All you'd probably need for that would be a pair of his underwear... But you'd have to get a pretty large jar to hold 'em.

18 posted on 05/18/2005 6:07:11 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: kabar
I'm still waiting for an avant-garde artist to create a 'Piss_Mohammed' (that is, Mohammed in a bottle of urine) and put it on display in an art gallery somewhere. It's going to be a long wait, I'm sure.

Yes, nobody wants to be another Simon Rushdie condemned to being in hiding the rest of his/her life or dead.

It's Salman Rushdie, but, of course, I agree with your point.

But, you know, at some point, rational people have to make a stand against irrational ones. Otherwise, civilization will be lost.

20 posted on 05/18/2005 6:12:10 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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