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CA/OR: New salamander species identified
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 5/17/05 | William McCall - AP

Posted on 05/17/2005 5:59:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: cmsgop
"Human's taste like pork."

You need to date a better class of people : )

42 posted on 05/20/2005 4:32:19 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: Vinnie

To all of Feepers....(including myself)

We must recognize that God's creation is not accidentally created for our pleasure. We do have a moral responsibility to God and his creation, which includes us. To live in harmony is easy to talk about but to actually put into action is a headache...ex..ESA, spotted owl, etc... We must admit and understand that the value of a human being is not their usefulness...or what $ they can create.... The same understanding must be applied to Gods creation (Nature), be it on a different level..because plants and salamanders are not moral agents possible of recipricating morality. Stewardship... Gods law can only be interpreted and understood by moral agents....so stewardship was given to man because of the moral responsiblity that we are born with.."..created in the image of God." Law, (paraphrase) as St. Paul puts it, is the comdenmation of the sin that man performs. So stewardship is a commandmant/law from God to us because of our sinful nature...(e.g. murder, rape, pollution, destruction of habitats..etc...) that humans can commit against Nature.

What is God's stewarship commandment?? That, the moral communities will have to figure out...which many have and are on the way of teaching.

God would not need to have commanded Adam with stewardship if it was not a concern or problem with our sin nature. So at least we must deeply think how God wants us to interact with Nature. We as Christians (morally concerned folks) must not flippantly throw the baby out with the bath water. God will destroy the destroyers of the earth...(Revelation).

Politics ($$ interest lobbiest) on both sides of the aisle confuses and entrap through our greedy nature the votes of morally concern folks...i.e. Christians (84% of US). It does not have to be thought of as feed my family or logging. There is a moral way to deal with feeding ones family and logging/development/strip malls/dams etc. Feeding your family is morally important,,,but when/where does development/strip malls become a automatic moral part of feeding your family. Maybe the farmers/developers/LA have to back up a bit with taking all the water?? Maybe we should change our mentality and the laws will improve and our living condition and nature will be more harmonized. Instead of a us vs nature attitude.....

Peace...think about it..


43 posted on 06/09/2005 2:41:39 PM PDT by hmong
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