Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Senate OKs highway-spending bill (An Actual Veto Threatened!!!)
MarketWatch.com (by Dow Jones) ^ | 5/17/05 | Stephanie I. Cohen

Posted on 05/17/2005 5:28:05 PM PDT by SierraWasp

Senate OKs highway-spending bill
Spending of $295 billion tops White House request

By Stephanie I. Cohen, MarketWatch Last Update: 7:54 PM ET May 17, 2005

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The Senate on Tuesday overwhelmingly passed a six-year highway-spending bill that would exceed the Bush administration's budget target, setting the stage for a showdown with the White House.

The bill, the Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century, would authorize $295 billion for highway and transportation programs through fiscal year 2009. The White House has warned lawmakers not to cap the bill at $284 billion.

"We have made it very clear, and we reiterated here today, that the president's senior adviser would recommend a veto if that legislation exceeded the $283.9 billion that we have proposed," Scott McClellan, President Bush's spokesman, said before the vote.

Passage of the bill, by a vote of 89-11 paves the way for the House and Senate to begin negotiations on a compromise bill. The House passed its version in March. Its bill authorized $284 billion in spending.

Sen. James Jeffords, I-Vt., called on the administration to consider supporting the legislation despite the higher price tag.

"We should not enter [House-Senate] negotiations with a proverbial gun at our head with the threat of a veto," Jeffords said.

The Senate boosted funding by $11.2 billion, or about 4% above the White House request.

"That funding makes all the difference in allowing us to draft a funding formula that ensures that all states benefit in this legislation," Jeffords said

"Once signed into law, this bill will provide an immediate boost to the economy, ensure the nation's transportation demands are met and create jobs for American workers," said Bruce Josten, vice president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

Fuel-economy amendment

Before passing the bill, senators adopted an amendment that would require vehicles sold in the U.S. to carry more accurate information on gas mileage.

The amendment, offered by Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., would require the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and federal Department of Transportation to revise their fuel-economy testing to reflect "today's real-life driving conditions," Cantwell said in a statement.

Cantwell maintains the standards used assume people drive 48 miles per hour on the freeway and never use their air conditioners.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: pork; snuff; stifle; strangulate; stuff; suffocate; transportation; veto
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-23 next last
Mrs. Bob Matsui (Doris)should be ready to absorb this up-coming first Bush VETO on behalf of her late husband... Democrat Robert Matusi... She was a dutiful staffer for the Clinton Whitehouse and all it's dire corruption while her hubby served Sacramento in the CONgress!!! Already she's a PORKER!!!
1 posted on 05/17/2005 5:28:06 PM PDT by SierraWasp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SierraWasp

Bush needs to veto this because it would do much for his credibility and clout with Congress.


2 posted on 05/17/2005 5:30:32 PM PDT by Rockingham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SierraWasp

They keep spending and spending and spending and we are forced to take it. People just accept that they must keep paying more taxes to support the machine that sucks our money and provides us with nothing.


3 posted on 05/17/2005 5:31:32 PM PDT by CaptainAwesome2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SierraWasp
This is a bill Bush can safely veto. It's not something he's pushing, even though it's something we obviously have to do at some funding level.

A veto won't kill the idea. A revised bill will be introduced.

It would be surprising if Congress overrides a veto even given the Senate margin of passage.

4 posted on 05/17/2005 5:32:13 PM PDT by Dog Gone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SierraWasp
I'm surprised and a little disappointed that Tom Coburn voted for this. I just hope the president isn't bluffing about the veto.
5 posted on 05/17/2005 5:37:47 PM PDT by JohnBDay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CaptainAwesome2

I say no veto...With the scores of billions our president gives to our enemies, I say let's get all we can while we can for ourselves...

We can't afford border security??? We can't afford decent federal highways???

We can afford to give 10 million to Mexican citizens IN MEXICO so they can start their own businesses??? We can give 5 billion to contractors IN CHINA so they can design nuclear power plants IN CHINA, FOR CHINA???

Nuts to them...And the horses they rode in on...


6 posted on 05/17/2005 5:40:26 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Rockingham

Yup, That would be a good message to the Congress to keep within the budget. I hope he voto's it


7 posted on 05/17/2005 5:40:52 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( By Comparison...."Dingy" Harry Reid makes Tom Daschle look like a Statesman)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: JohnBDay; Admin Moderator
"I'm surprised and a little disappointed..."

So am I! I thought I selected the "Breaking News" sidebar for this posting as I was sure it would qualify!!!

8 posted on 05/17/2005 5:43:09 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Dog Gone

A veto is CRUCIAL!!! I think it would even help the markets!!! I know it would strengthen the Presidents credibility!!! It would strengthen a whole buncha things that really need strengthening around here!!!


9 posted on 05/17/2005 5:45:35 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SierraWasp

This bill will NOT be vetoed because only the senate has passed it. The house version, previously passed is within the limit the president has set.


IF YOU WANT TO PUKE, click the link to see, project by project, what our conservative republican party is funding with YOUR money:

http://taxpayer.net/Transportation/hr3database/HR3Database-FINAL.pdf


10 posted on 05/17/2005 5:46:04 PM PDT by Founding Father (A proud "vigilante." My money goes to support Minutemen, not Republicans.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MJY1288; Rockingham

It passed 89-11. Senators only need 67 votes to override a veto. For all those Senators to pile on show that they don't give a damn what Bush thinks about keeping the numbers down. It's not even close. He can veto it without alienating anyone, either, because there's not a chance the veto will stand and actually cost anyone any pork.

Thank God for Tom Coburn. Too bad more people don't listen to him. Even Sen. Inhofe was defending this extra-large pork barrel today.


11 posted on 05/17/2005 5:46:43 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SierraWasp

With margins like this, a veto has symbolic value only.


12 posted on 05/17/2005 5:47:31 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: SierraWasp

Go ahead and veto. Highway spending bills are the most notoriously pork-laden legislation Congress passes. I know there's like $100,000 for a community swimming pool in there somewhere, and WTF does that have to do with highways?


13 posted on 05/17/2005 5:51:07 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Iscool

I dont like to justify overspending here by pointing out overspending abroad.


14 posted on 05/17/2005 5:52:41 PM PDT by CaptainAwesome2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: HostileTerritory
The bill would have to pass both houses of Congress. and my guess is that Bush would pick up votes on a veto override effort. Oddly, the often feckless lightweight Gerald Ford frequently vetoed bills and gained in strength and respect for doing so, even in the Democratic Congress that he confronted. With his long Congressional career, Ford knew that well-chosen vetoes bolster a President with Congress.
15 posted on 05/17/2005 5:53:38 PM PDT by Rockingham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

Comment #16 Removed by Moderator

To: SierraWasp


Rep. Don Young (R-AK) is trying to sell America's taxpayers a $315 million "bridge to nowhere" in rural Alaska. As Chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, he is in a very good position to get his way. But Rep. Young should be stopped from using his political clout to force federal taxpayers to pay for a bridge that is ridiculous in its scope, unjustified on its merits, and far too expensive for taxpayers to swallow at a time of record federal deficits.

If Rep. Young succeeds, tiny Ketchikan, Alaska, a town with less than 8,000 residents (about 13,000 if the entire county is included) will receive hundreds of millions of federal dollars to build a bridge to Gravina Island (population: 50). This bridge will be nearly as long as the Golden Gate Bridge and taller than the Brooklyn Bridge.




The Gravina Bridge would replace a 7-minute ferry ride from Ketchikan to Ketchikan Airport on Gravina Island. Project proponents tell the public that the bridge is a transportation necessity, though the ferry system adequately handles passenger traffic between the islands, including traffic to and from the airport.1 Some herald the project as the savior of Ketchikan because it will open up land on Pennock Island to residential development, despite the fact that Ketchikan's population has been shrinking.

Project Costs

In September 2004, the U.S. Department of Transportation released its decision on the Gravina Access Project, and chose the most expensive alternative as the preferred project.2 The official cost estimate at the time was $230 million. Recently, the Alaska Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOT&PF) increased the estimate for the project by more than one-third, to $315 million. Annual operating and maintenance costs, much of which would likely be paid for by federal taxpayers, will cost an additional $110,000.3

Table 1.4 Big Dig Gravina Bridge
Assumed Cost $14,000,000,000 $315,000,000
Population 5,800,000 13,320
Cost per person $2,414 $23,649

At $315 million, the Gravina Bridge will cost $23,649 per Ketchikan Gateway Borough resident. In comparison, Boston's Big Dig project-a massive tunneling and highway project and the poster child of government waste-cost less than one-tenth this amount on a per resident basis (see Table 1).

Table 2.5 Big Dig Gravina Bridge
Daily Usage (vehicles/day) 500,000 1,000
Annual Cost (5% discount rate) $700,000,000 $15,750,000
Number of trips per year 182,500,000 365,000
Cost per trip $3.84 $43.15
Cost of ferry for a car NA $6.00
Cost of ferry for a pedestrian NA $4.00

Comparing the Big Dig and Gravina Bridge on a per trip basis also yields striking evidence of how wasteful the Gravina Bridge project really is. Taxpayers will subsidize each trip over Gravina Bridge to the tune of more than $43, compared to about $4 for each Big Dig trip (see Table 2). That means each trip over the Gravina Bridge would cost taxpayers more than ten times as much as a trip through the most wasteful highway project in America's history!

In addition to the millions of dollars that will come from the federal government, state and local sources will be responsible for approximately $63 million, or 20 percent of the project's cost. Ketchikan residents are understandably concerned about how this shift in government priorities will affect the area's already sparse government funding. In the winter of 2002-03 snowplowing on ancillary roads in the Ketchikan Gateway Borough was discontinued due to lack of funding. Residents point out that the area's need to match the $23 million in federal funds that were allocated for the Gravina Bridge in 1997 might be causing state and local governments to cut back on much needed social services and road maintenance priorities. Building more major road projects will further exacerbate the region's inability to carry out necessary infrastructure maintenance.

Practical Planning or Political Pork?

The Gravina Access Project would purportedly improve surface transportation between Ketchikan and Gravina Island, yet there is little indication that things will be better with the bridge. Few local residents are on record complaining about the short ferry ride to Gravina, and many tourists love the ferry ride from the airport to town. One Ketchikan resident told ABC News: "When people come to Ketchikan, that little ferry ride is what they remember." And still, despite the lack of demonstrated need, federal taxpayers will pay to construct and maintain the bridge and connecting roads.

"When people come to Ketchikan, that little ferry ride is what they remember."

Rep. Young is so supportive of the Gravina Bridge that he used his significant influence as Chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee to secure $175 million worth of earmarks for the project in last year's failed reauthorization of the six-year transportation bill. Previously, Rep. Young secured a $1 million earmark in the fiscal year (FY) 2002 appropriations bill and a $2 million earmark in the FY 2003 appropriations bill. Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) has also helped out by securing $20.4 million worth of earmarks in the 1997 "Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century" (TEA-21).6

Though Congress failed to agree on a reauthorization bill for the nation's transportation program in 2004, this will be a Congressional priority early in 2005. There is little doubt that Rep. Young will continue his attempts to secure the same massive earmarks for Gravina Bridge. He should be prevented from using his significant political power to support a wasteful and unjustified local pet project at the expense of federal taxpayers.

References
1. Alaska Airlines, the only commercial passenger airline that flies to Ketchikan, runs seven daily flight routes in the summer and six in the winter. Two ferries, which run every 15 minutes in the summer and every 30 minutes in the winter, provide transportation to and from the airport. The city also maintains a third ferry in case of emergency.

2. Alternative F1 is actually two bridges: an east channel bridge-from Revilla Island, where Ketchikan is located, to Pennock Island-that would be 3,610 feet long and 250 feet high and a west channel bridge-from Pennock Island to Gravina Island-that would be 2,690 feet long and 160 feet high. The two bridge design was chosen so cruise ships can freely pass through the east channel. For the purposes of this paper, this project is treated as one bridge project.

3. HDR Alaska, Inc. July 2003. "Gravina Access Project: Preliminary Quantities and Cost Estimate, Technical Memorandum." Page 10.

4. Peter Samuel. "Alaskan pork-Ketchikan bridge vs Big Dig." April 10, 2004. TOLLROADSnews. Available on`line: http://www.tollroadsnews.com/cgi-bin/a.cgi/uvmy4IsWEdiRW6r2jfFwDw

5. Ibid. Samuel's calculations for Gravina Bridge were updated using most current cost estimates. The estimation of 1,000 trips/day was attained by applying to Gravina Bridge the same ratio of vehicle trips per thousand local population that the Big Dig generates. In Boston, the airport generates 150,000 vehicle trips, or about 25 trips per thousand local population. If this ratio is applied to Ketchikan, the resulting estimate of daily trips is 350. Samuels utilized a much more conservative estimate of 1,000 trips per day.

6. November 1999. Section 1101(a)(13) of the Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century (Public Law 105-178). Attachment 3.

http://taxpayer.net/Transportation/gravinabridge.htm


A fine example of republican spending restraint.


17 posted on 05/17/2005 6:01:16 PM PDT by Founding Father (A proud "vigilante." My money goes to support Minutemen, not Republicans.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg

A line item veto has been declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court


18 posted on 05/17/2005 6:03:08 PM PDT by Founding Father (A proud "vigilante." My money goes to support Minutemen, not Republicans.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

Comment #19 Removed by Moderator

Comment #20 Removed by Moderator


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-23 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson