Posted on 05/17/2005 7:23:59 AM PDT by Crush T Velour
What most people learn in college is the stuff that used to be taught to every high-schooler... hard sciences excepted.
So what is a degree worth these days?
And how many women are graduating in Engineering, Science and other technical majors (i.e. with really useful degrees)?
Soon, affirmative action feminists will be agitating against the universities for accepting women in greater numbers than men, thereby impoverishing them with exorbitant tuition fees requiring massive education loans, and saddling them with useless "knowledge" and ridiculously misplaced hostilities to every force that ever advanced anything on this planet.
Parasites never change, just their strategies do.
I would like to join the struggle for sexual equality but my wife won't let me. Besides, she says I'll be too busy painting the garage this summer.
Affirmative action is one thing, but the bandwaggon of bigotry and shallow short minded arguments going with it are legions.
What was designed in AA as a mean to expand our "knowledge home" was implemented as a mean to shrink it. This is what happens when you let any program, LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE, be run by disgusting bigoted Nazi liberal losers at work.
Almost all PhDs at reasearch schools are funded. If you want a free PhD in public health, you should look around, I'm sure you can fund a program. These degrees are paid for by using the student as labor as research and teaching assistants and grants. Nothing hiden or affirmative action about it.
My suggestion to prospective doctoral students is that if you can't get into a funded program, you should probably rethink going at all, unless you just need the credential (like an educator wanting a PhD to become a principal).
I left a well-paying job to get my PhD, but I only applied to programs which would fully fund me. It's not difficult. I know many doctoral students around the country, and unless you are in your 7th year of an English or Womens Studies degree, folks have funding. Going into the health sciences, you should have no problem finding a program that will at least give you tuition, insurance, and a stipend for a part-time job. It's how the game is played.
Every time this issue comes up I have the same question. Do young women even have any interest in Science and Math? I know some individuals do. Some have been good at it while others were not. About normal. But as a large group I've just never seen a lot of interest. There are no longer any legal barriers. Social barriers to certain jobs for some groups of people will always exist. So again the question is this. Do young women have any interest in the pure sciences and engineering?
There you go again spouting that truth again.. haha..
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Guilty as charged your honor!!! :-)
I'm in a more technology related field than Science or Math, where there are a number of women, but I do belong to a group of minority graduate students on campus. Many of the women are in biology, bio-engineering, chemistry, etc. I haven't met any math majors. Many are in science-related fields - speech and hearing or public health.
What I am learning from other sources is that it's not the school work, women do that just fine. It's the post-doc world and the time constraints of running a lab and trying to have a family. While getting to tenure is a difficult process for everyone, it seems to be more difficult for women in the sciences. Running the big research labs (where the money and prestige are) is also an issue. So, some go into teaching at non-research schools, some go into government or private research, where the time pressures seem to be more manageable.
I think what the big name people complain about is the lack of women at the high level positions and important schools, rather than the lack of women overall. I heard the NPR report this morning and noted that there were maybe 5-10 women out of 100 or so physics faculty at Berkeley. So what? Who said we were going to have 50/50 parity everywhere? And there are many schools besides Berkeley (again, the focus is on the name schools. It's like if you aren't at a name school, you might as well get out of the profession), what's the ratio at these other places?
I think it is more a manifestation of the fact that you can have it all, but you can't have it all right now. For women who have given up much of their productive youth to education, once they get married, they need to start having children quickly. They find that they just can't do everything at superwoman levels. It doesn't work.
Ah! the pendulum swings back and strikes the metro sexual male in the groin, and there is nothing there to cause pain..
I have heard that what you say is true.
Launching lawsuits sounds like a great idea to me. It's a loser in the leftist courts, but at least it makes liberals continue to look bad.
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