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Zero Stars For Star Wars VI (Spoiler Alert)
cbsnews.com ^ | May 16, 2005 | John Podhoretz.

Posted on 05/16/2005 1:18:49 PM PDT by Destro

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To: Destro

If it is as bad as "Phantom Menace," everyone should save their money. That was probably the stupidest, most-boring movie ever.


221 posted on 05/16/2005 7:18:23 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable clues that God exists)
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To: Destro

That faux pas right there disqualifies his review if you ask me.


222 posted on 05/16/2005 7:20:56 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Sonny M; KarlInOhio; eyespysomething

I thought what got you to the dark side was using your Jedi powers for your own selfish needs. The Force is sort of like the Chinese/Japanese "Chi". In martial arts they teach you not to use your force unless you have to. That you become seduced to the dark side of the Force when you try and and control the force rather than working with the force.


223 posted on 05/16/2005 7:21:01 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Ragnorak

Hilarious, that was. Better than the movie, think I.


224 posted on 05/16/2005 7:21:14 PM PDT by StrictTime (Shameless BUMP for Taglinus FreeRepublicus!!)
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To: shotokan

It's as though I sense a million souls, all crying out at once,...and then the lines at the cinema disappeared....


225 posted on 05/16/2005 7:25:31 PM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: Paulus Invictus
The reason Star Wars is cool from the first three movies is that it took basic elements of mythology that humans need and presented it in a fresh manner to children. Let's face it in the 70s there was nothing in society children and young adults had that spoke to their hopes and fears on a mythical level. What Lucas did wrong for the last two was he fumbled on his mythology.

Also Star Wars (as was Indiana Jones) is a tribute to 30s and 40s movie westerns and matinee serials - which means simple stories and fast moving adventures.

The last two Star Wars seemed a failure because the bad guys were not clearly defined - what was lacking in the first two Star Wars was a clear black hat wearing villian and it lacked martial combat action.

226 posted on 05/16/2005 7:30:22 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: marajade
The reason Star Wars is cool from the first three movies is that it took basic elements of mythology that humans need and presented it in a fresh manner to children. Let's face it in the 70s there was nothing in society children and young adults had that spoke to their hopes and fears on a mythical level. What Lucas did wrong for the last two was he fumbled on his mythology.

Also Star Wars (as was Indiana Jones) is a tribute to 30s and 40s movie westerns and matinee serials - which means simple stories and fast moving adventures.

The last two Star Wars seemed a failure because the bad guys were not clearly defined - what was lacking in the first two Star Wars was a clear black hat wearing villian and it lacked death defying action.

227 posted on 05/16/2005 7:34:41 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

Well Anakin/Darth Vader, as a bad guy, isn't clearly defined viewing the whole series a whole.


228 posted on 05/16/2005 7:41:29 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Lazamataz
We need to see more stormtroopers like this:

Speaking of which, did anyone see the AJC article on Saturday, with a picture of a woman with a similar outfit? I tried to go find the pic on the AJC site, but couldn't. So I found this one instead.

229 posted on 05/16/2005 7:44:42 PM PDT by Tatze (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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To: Tatze

"Aren't you a little busty to be a stormtrooper?"


230 posted on 05/16/2005 7:49:56 PM PDT by AngryJawa (Will Work For Ammo)
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To: BibChr

A perfect example of just how generally unimaginative and insular Hollywood has been. You find these incredible movies which are nearly perfect and others which are just embarassingly bad.

In the new one the id would win. An the love affair would be Lesbian. If Lucas is the pinnacle then you can see how far the fall off has been.


231 posted on 05/16/2005 7:51:37 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Borges

It was everything a good sf movie should be. It gave some eye-candy and all, but even more, it sparked the imagination and sense of wonder.

And then we were right back into visible wires and black and white and set backdrops with visible seams, and hokey plots, for another twenty years or so....

Dan


232 posted on 05/16/2005 7:52:47 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Destro
John Podhoretz,"Bush Country" he wrote.

Natalie Portman, hot she is.

George Lucas, wine he makes.

233 posted on 05/16/2005 7:53:01 PM PDT by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Right. Or you'd have to see the naked swimming scene. FP was great both for what it showed, and for what it only suggested.

Dan


234 posted on 05/16/2005 7:54:25 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Destro

Lucas was quoted recently with..."I'm glad to be leaving this behind" or words to that effect. Maybe he'll do a shark movie next ;)


235 posted on 05/16/2005 7:55:42 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (If you must filibuster, let the Constitution do the talkin')
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To: Borges

It was a wonderful movie and grabbed me from the beginning as a 10 or 11 year old in a little Arkansas town. Now it can't even support a movie theater so the people travel to a larger city generally Monroe, La. But when I saw that movie I was flying through space in that saucer and scared crapless. No monster is ever more frightening than the Unseen One.


236 posted on 05/16/2005 7:55:46 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Destro

Another fantastic one. But it was precisely the story which made it great unlike Star Wars. There was not one special effect in it worth the name all psychological development again unlike Star Wars. But that is unimportant to a neo-serialized mythology or serialized neo-mythology which you postulate.

Star Wars has the problem Wagner operas have for me, no humanity of interest. Interesting parts but doesn't hold together like a Spielberg movie.


237 posted on 05/16/2005 8:14:34 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Destro
The last two Star Wars seemed a failure because the bad guys were not clearly defined - what was lacking in the first two Star Wars was a clear black hat wearing villian and it lacked death defying action.

Yep. I forget, is Dooku a bad guy? At first, I thought he was the only one to sense Palpatine's plan and act to raise an army to counter it, but evidently I missed some nuance that aligned him with the Sith. As you said, not clearly defined. For that matter, the picture of the Old Republic that Lucas presents in Episodes I & II looks more like a bunch of feuding Somali warlords than anything else. It's almost enough to make you cheer for the Empire.

There's something else missing from the prequels, too: *humor*. The Original Trilogy had Han Solo - a non-boring, non-tedious, non-Jedi character. His charm and humor helped balance out the heavy, serious Jedi component.

238 posted on 05/16/2005 8:20:13 PM PDT by Cloud William (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Now that I think about it Luke Skywalker in teh first Star Wars was kind of a whiny teenager in the first third of the movie but in the end he became a man and had a right of passage. I think I got it! That is why the first two modern moves were so off - because they did not have that growing up baptisim of fire moment from teenager to man that there was in Star Wars. I think that is why the original Star Wars blew up and hooked a generation.


239 posted on 05/16/2005 8:56:26 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Ronzo
Yoda-speak was subtly but triumphantly satirized in Star Trek IV, one of the funnier scenes in that picture.

I didn't pay to see the last two Star Wars, and I won't pay to see this one now, either. From what I can tell, the average Star Wars fan these days is about 7 years old, so Lucas revolving the whole deal around childbirth should go over well with his adoring fan base

240 posted on 05/16/2005 9:13:22 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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