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Posted on 05/16/2005 12:42:08 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt
Pat Buchanan is in hot water with the Anti-Defamation League for a column in which he questioned whether World War II was worth it. Buchanan reasoned that the purpose of the war had been to save Czechoslovakia and Poland from tyranny as both nations fell behind the Iron Curtain after the War, that effort appears to have been frustrated at best.
The ADL called foul because Buchanan totally disregarded the carnage of the Holocaust. Buchanan said if the purpose of the war was "to liberate Germans, it was not worth it. After all, the Germans voted Hitler in."
Buchanan's statement like most others that touch on the Jewish people totally lack sensitivity and understanding to the human toll they suffered during the Holocaust. However, before the left wags it finger at Pat Buchanan, they better examine themselves, for on issues of foreign policy, they're just like Pat.
Like fellow Iraq War opponents, Buchanan has nailed the war down to one issue and one alone. In Iraq, its Weapons of Mass Destruction, in World War II, it was the liberation of Poland and Czechoslovakia from all tyranny. In both cases, he's wrong.
Leading up to the Iraq War, Bush talked about a lot of reasons for going to war, less we forget the name of the Iraqi Operation wasn't "Operation Find Weapons of Mass Destruction" but rather "Operation Iraqi Freedom." In the end, getting rid of Hussein made a lot of world dictators behave and realize the US wasn't afraid to depose them. Thus its no coincidence that Moammar Gadhafi gave up his Weapons of Mass Destruction within months of the US invasion.
The same was true with World War II. The issue was not just the freedom of Czechoslovakia and Poland. Churchill knew Hitler had a history of breaking agreements. His word was worth nothing. Buchanan in his book, "A Republic Not an Empire" pointed to statements in which the Nazis indicated they sought regional and not world domination. The simple fact is that the Germans lied so many times, they simply couldn't be believed. The idea that the West should have allowed the behemoth of Germany to grow larger, economically and militarily in the hopes they'd keep their word is the height of madness.
On the issue of the Holocaust, its true that we didn't' go into World War II to stop it. Each day in this world: religious, ethnic, and political groups face genocide and persecution and if we tried to stop it all, we'd be in a constant state of war. However, the end of the Holocaust was a powerful benefit of our action in Germany, just as the liberation of Iraqis from Saddam Hussein's reign of fear and tyranny that left hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead in what CNN blithely called, "The News We Kept to Ourselves" was a powerful benefit of our action in Iraq. If the ADL feel like the suffering of their people has been discounted by Pat Buchanan this week, they have a small sample of what Iraqis must feel everyday as they listen to anti-war people like Michael Moore and of course, Pat Buchanan who discount their suffering under the hands of a cruel dictator.
Of course, Buchanan's being consistent, the Left has much to answer for as they hypocritically venerate FDR. The left attacks the President for the Abu Gharib scandal where some prisoners were sexually abused by US Soldiers in an event that the President claims to have had no foreknowledge of and has apologized for. Yet, FDR is beloved despite the fact that he signed off on Operation Keelhaul which sent 2 million Russian POWs back to Russia to meet a cruel death at the hands of Josef Stalin. Apparently, it was alright because the US didn't put panties on the Russian soldiers' heads before closing the train door and sending them to their deaths.
The left has little room for outrage with Pat Buchanan's stance on World War II. After all, all he did was apply their Iraq test to World War II, and what could be wrong with that?
I wish Pat would sit down and shut up...
If the ADL feel like the suffering of their people has been discounted by Pat Buchanan this week, they have a small sample of what Iraqis must feel everyday as they listen to anti-war people like Michael Moore and of course, Pat Buchanan who discount their suffering under the hands of a cruel dictator.
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The ADL should be advised that Jews were not the only people that suffered during WW2...although they tend to forget that at times with their self-centered complaining.
On foreign policy, there is no difference between Noam Chomsky and Pat Buchanan, the 2 leaders of the Blame America First Party.
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I'm not picky so long as he shuts up!
the 2 leaders of the Blame America First Party.
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Pat should just retire from public view and do us a favor.
Me too! The only conservative local talk show host on the air in Baltimore in the afternoon is a Buchananite. I generally like Ron Smith, but if he mentions Iraq or TS I change the station because I can not stomach his rantings on those topics.
I guess 300,000 murdered Iraqis didn't count then.
Pat was pointing out that lots of people were killed and enslaved by Stalin and the Communists before and after WW II. That included a lot of Christians. Jews rightly complain about Nazis but should understand that Christians can feel the same way about Communists.
Jews rightly complain about Nazis but should understand that Christians can feel the same way about Communists.
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That was my point -- but it has been a long time since I have heard Jews talk about horrors committed upon ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES....funny how that works...
The cause for World War II was that Nazism was a cancer that needed to be destroyed. The pretext for World War II was the Nazi invasion of Poland.
"Now I maintain that it is most essential both for writers and for students to know the causes from which all events spring and grow. But most writers are guilty of confusion in this matter, owing to their not observing the difference between a pretext and a cause, and between the beginning of a war and pretext for it.".............Polybius, Book XXII, Chapter 8.
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