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White House Wants Retraction From Newsweek
AP ^ | May 16, 2005 | DINO HAZELL

Posted on 05/16/2005 10:19:56 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

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To: West Coast Conservative

Somebody's head has got to roll over this. Somebody high up. Heads have rolled at the New York Times, CNN, CBS, I know I'm missing some, over false and propagandistic reporting. This is horrific. This was incitement to riot, worldwide. Somebody has got to pay. How can we make them pay? How can anyone be talking about anything but this? This was an unbelievably egregious act.


81 posted on 05/16/2005 12:03:02 PM PDT by johnb838 (Technology will never change human nature.)
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To: CaptSkip

Who has a subscription to Newsweak? I'd go US News if I had to have a tree-killer magazine.


82 posted on 05/16/2005 12:19:58 PM PDT by johnb838 (Technology will never change human nature.)
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To: paul_fromatlanta

There is no source. It was barroom chatter. That's why they won't report. Imagine Isikoff telling the truth:

"Well you see, I met up with some buddies at the local Bennigan's and we were having beers when the conversation turned to Guantanimo...."

They'll never reveal, because it would only show the depth of the hubris involved.

Anyone willing to wager money on this?

dung.


83 posted on 05/16/2005 12:40:54 PM PDT by Moose Dung (Soiling the Shoes of the Lunatic Left)
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To: johnb838
I'd go US News if I had to have a tree-killer magazine

The US Snooze used to be conservative now is 'moderate'. John Leo is good though.

84 posted on 05/16/2005 12:43:58 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: johnb838
Who has a subscription to Newsweak? I'd go US News if I had to have a tree-killer magazine.


Mine was a gift subscription from my parents.
85 posted on 05/16/2005 1:00:13 PM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: West Coast Conservative

BARF ALERT

At http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7857154/site/newsweek/

May 23 issue - Did a report in NEWSWEEK set off a wave of deadly anti-American riots in Afghanistan? That's what numerous news accounts suggested last week as angry Afghans took to the streets to protest reports, linked to us, that U.S. interrogators had desecrated the Qur'an while interrogating Muslim terror suspects. We were as alarmed as anyone to hear of the violence, which left at least 15 Afghans dead and scores injured. But I think it's important for the public to know exactly what we reported, why, and how subsequent events unfolded.

Two weeks ago, in our issue dated May 9, Michael Isikoff and John Barry reported in a brief item in our Periscope section that U.S. military investigators had found evidence that American guards at the detention center in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, had committed infractions in trying to get terror suspects to talk, including in one case flushing a Qur'an down a toilet. Their information came from a knowledgeable U.S. government source, and before deciding whether to publish it we approached two separate Defense Department officials for comment. One declined to give us a response; the other challenged another aspect of the story but did not dispute the Qur'an charge.

Although other major news organizations had aired charges of Qur'an desecration based only on the testimony of detainees, we believed our story was newsworthy because a U.S. official said government investigators turned up this evidence. So we published the item. After several days, newspapers in Pakistan and Afghanistan began running accounts of our story. At that point, as Evan Thomas, Ron Moreau and Sami Yousafzai report this week, the riots started and spread across the country, fanned by extremists and unhappiness over the economy.

Last Friday, a top Pentagon spokesman told us that a review of the probe cited in our story showed that it was never meant to look into charges of Qur'an desecration. The spokesman also said the Pentagon had investigated other desecration charges by detainees and found them "not credible." Our original source later said he couldn't be certain about reading of the alleged Qur'an incident in the report we cited, and said it might have been in other investigative documents or drafts. Top administration officials have promised to continue looking into the charges, and so will we. But we regret that we got any part of our story wrong, and extend our sympathies to victims of the violence and to the U.S. soldiers caught in its midst.

—Mark Whitaker
The Editor's Desk
Newsweek


86 posted on 05/16/2005 1:29:03 PM PDT by bookworm100
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To: Caged in Canuckistan


HAHAHAHAH...I was waiting for someone to post that reply!

F'n'A....I say we take off, nuke the building from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

Soylent green now includes ex baywatch stars, plastic wrapper an all.


87 posted on 05/16/2005 2:35:26 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: paul_fromatlanta
There is limit to how responsible we can be for what crazy people do
I agree to an extent. Newsweek,though, bears a burden of responsibility here. It's internationally read, and their journalists are supposed to be professional-- reliable and factual. If Newsweek had done its job, none of this would have happened. Period.
88 posted on 05/16/2005 2:46:03 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou
>>I agree to an extent. Newsweek,though, bears a burden of responsibility here. It's internationally read, and their journalists are supposed to be professional-- reliable and factual. If Newsweek had done its job, none of this would have happened. Period.<<

I didn't mean to minimize Newsweek's problem - to print something damaging to the country on one unsubstantiated anonymous source is sloppy at best and complicit in fraud at worst.

But if a America or some American angers Muslims and they respond by killing innocent people, we're not responsible for the deaths but only for our own actions...

For example I think Israel is wrong to keep settlements in the occupied territories and not giving Palestinians equal rights... but does that make it Israel's fault when Palestinian terrorists blow up a bus of civilians? No way.
89 posted on 05/16/2005 3:10:23 PM PDT by paul_fromatlanta (Paul from Atlanta)
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To: auzerais

Heh! Great idea!


90 posted on 05/16/2005 3:24:51 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Newsweek's malefaction
Calls for a retraction
It's "apology" WON'T DO
Boop-boop-a-doo

Leni

91 posted on 05/16/2005 3:29:54 PM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: paul_fromatlanta

"The Bush administration that they have the right to treat people inhumanely as echoed in your post because they have decided to classify them in such a way that they can claim they fall into no category and therefore have no rights, will, in my opinion, be remembered a low point in American ethics.

Any method that you use get to justify systematic torture is wrong. It can be spun any way you like. You can use international law or American law - but it is still wrong. And the world knows it and that hurts us far more than any one one incorrect article.

In addition to being wrong it undermines our justification for being the world's policeman so it has great negqtive practical consequences too."

Don't agree. The fact that we do abide by the Geneva Convention is what is in fact harming us. We abide by laws and punish those who abuse them, as Abu Gharib proved. The US military was already investigating the crime when the MSM decided that this would be a good way to hammer Bush in an election year.

That the ACLU and International Peace groups gives terrorists a platform against the US is the travesty. The Geneva Convention is specific. Unfortunately we are the only nation that abides by it since we are one of the only humane nations left on the planet.

The Newsweek story as well as Rathergate just confirmed what everyone already knows; the media is out to get the administration and they will go to any length, even compromising their journalistic integrity to do it.


92 posted on 05/17/2005 4:19:51 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: West Coast Conservative

93 posted on 05/17/2005 4:25:16 AM PDT by Jhensy
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To: Blessed
Counter productive. The 3rd world sees no differance in our news media and their's.Official sanctions would discredit any retraction Newsweek made in their eyes.Newsweek must do what is right with no pressure from White House or DOD.

Good point. But unfortunately, the damage is done. US government sponsored Koran-flushing is now an established fact in the Mohammedan world.

94 posted on 05/17/2005 5:02:04 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Michelle Malkin makes a very important point on her blog today about Newsweek's so-called ethical reporting "priorities"
ALSO, be sure to click on the [trackback] url and also read the other bloggers' reactions and input.

NEWSWEEK: PROTECTING KERRY, BUT NOT THE TROOPS
BY MICHELLE MALKIN · MAY 16, 2005 08:52 PM

Reader M.E. points out: Just for the sake of argument let's say the Newsweek article was true. No one's pointing out that Newsweek is the same publication that had a non-disclosure agreement with the Kerry campaign last fall. The editors agreed that anything their reporters discovered while "embedded" with Kerry/Edwards would not be published until after the '04 election.

So let me get this straight... Agreeing not to air Kerry's dirty laundry during a political campaign is fine and dandy. But not airing Gitmo's dirty laundry during the War on Terror would be a compromise of journalistic ethics. Got it.

[MM adds] - I had forgotten about that cozy arrangement between Kerry and Newsweek. Thanks for the reminder.
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95 posted on 05/17/2005 6:01:13 AM PDT by auzerais
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To: Mr. Lucky

Yorkshire Post, November 1, 2004 | Tipton Three turn on the trauma for £22m... injected with "unknown substances", and had their Korans thrown into the toilets.



DAILY MAIL (London), October 28, 2004, ED_3RD; Pg. 1; Pg. 2, TIPTON THREE SUE FOR Pounds 22M, DUNCAN GARDHAM... guards threw prisoners' Korans into toilets



DAILY MAIL (London), October 28, 2004, ED_3RD; Pg. 1; Pg. 2, TIPTON THREE SUE FOR Pounds 22M, DUNCAN GARDHAM... guards threw prisoners' Korans into toilets



The Express, October 28, 2004, U.K. 3rd Edition; NEWS; Pg. 4, GUANTANAMO BRITONS WILL SUE US FOR £22M, By Lianne Kolirin... guards threw prisoners' Korans into toilets



Irish News, October 28, 2004, Pg. 26, British men detained at Guantanamo sue US government for rights abuses;... guards threw prisoners' Korans into toilets



Press Association, October 27, 2004, Wednesday, HOME NEWS, GUANTANAMO BRITONS SUE US GOVERNMENT, Mark Sage, PA News, in New York... guards threw prisoners' Korans into toilets



Belfast Telegraph, August 5, 2004, Father demands release of his British son after claims of torture at Guantanamo Bay, By Andrew Buncombe in Washington... allegedly threw prisoners' Korans into toilets, while others were injected with ...



Birmingham Post, August 5, 2004, Thursday, First Edition; NEWS; Pg. 2, TIPTON TRIO CLAIM THEY WERE TORTURED BY ALLIES, EMMA PINCH A detainee is led by military police to be interrogated by military officials at Camp X-Ray at the US Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba; Asif Iqbal, Rhuhel Ahmed and Shafiq Rasul... Guards would throw prisoners' Korans into the toilet 'as part of their clear policy to ...



Federal News Service, August 5, 2004 Thursday, PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT - RELEASED GUANTANAMO DETAINEES ALLEGE ABUSE (ABC RADIO, AUSTRALIA, 08:25 (GMT+11) AUGUST 05, 2004)... guards would throw detainees' Korans down the toilet and shave them, to try to get them to ...



IPR Strategic Business Information Database, June 28, 2004, THEY ALLEGE ABUSE BY U.S. CAPTORS... at Guantanamo. "They tore the Koran to pieces in front of us, threw it into the toilet," Vakhitov said.



BBC Monitoring International Reports, June 26, 2004, RUSSIAN TV INTERVIEWS FREED GUANTANAMO PRISONERS... bucket instead of a toilet. People were in cells, ... ... floor. (Vahitov) They tore the Koran to pieces in front of us, threw it into the toilet.



The Observer, March 14, 2004, Observer News Pages, Pg. 5, 5420 words, World Exclusive: Inside Guantanamo: How we survived jail hell: For two years the Tipton Three have been silent prisoners in Guantanamo Bay. Now, in this remarkable interview with David Rose, they describe for the first time the extraordinary story of their journey from the West Midlands to Camp Delta, David Rose... ... sleeping tents, copies of the Koran would be trampled on by ... ... occasion, thrown into a toilet bucket.


96 posted on 05/17/2005 9:10:25 AM PDT by uberPatriot
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