[Tanniker Smith]

He's not the first to say this, but I'm glad someone is saying it again.

I was going to chime in yesterday on another thread with a similar argument (ie, mow your own lawn).

During the Depression, you might have worked two jobs cleaning toilets and you were happy that you had both jobs. Granted, this isn't a depression, but everyone starts somewhere.

Then again, this is a whacked-out country where people can be too proud to flip burgers and yet they are NOT too proud to accept welfare when they can't find a job they like.

TS

[cripplecreek]

When I was a kid I was expected to do housework after school because both of my parents worked. When I became a teenager I got a job on a farm for after school. Ive been cooking my own meals and doing my own laundry since I was old enough to safely do so.

Part of the problem is that liberals look down on laborers. They see someone who spends their life on the factory floor as a failure because they haven't advanced to the main office. A lot of people are quite content with working on the factory floor and don't want to advance. They just want a decent wage for doing so.

[johnb838]

I look at my apartment and it's a frickin nightmare and I'm so tempted to go to the office and get a reference and hire a muchachita (made-up word) to come in and clean for me so I can get out from under the mess and get the rest of the apartment unpacked. But so far I've resisted because I know it's wrong. But I may give in because if I go through an agency I'll pay twice as much for some gum-crackin, chain-smokin, long fingernailed, bee-hive wearin', jive-talkin person who ain't gonn do one more thing than absolutely necessary, and a half-assed job at that.

Or maybe I'll just go on trying to get ahead of the mess. And failing.

[johnb838]

I look at my apartment and it's a frickin nightmare and I'm so tempted to go to the office and get a reference and hire a muchachita (made-up word) to come in and clean for me so I can get out from under the mess and get the rest of the apartment unpacked. But so far I've resisted because I know it's wrong. But I may give in because if I go through an agency I'll pay twice as much for some gum-crackin, chain-smokin, long fingernailed, bee-hive wearin', jive-talkin person who ain't gonn do one more thing than absolutely necessary, and a half-assed job at that.

Or maybe I'll just go on trying to get ahead of the mess. And failing.

[tnlibertarian]

mow your own lawn,

You don't have to do that. I have two friends with their own lawn mowing businesses, do the work themselves or hire family, and neither one is a dam furner.
Well, one ain't a furner, the other is from Boston.