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Lucas jabs at 'Bush's empire'
Japan today ^ | Monday, May 16, 2005 at 07:29 JST

Posted on 05/16/2005 2:07:19 AM PDT by Savage_Nation

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To: ArGee
The Mr. Nice Guy approach cost us 3,000 lives in one day.

The walking soft didn't do that, nor was the perceived lack of strength a major cause. Ultimately the only individuals responsible for those lives where the ones who took them.

The President is not a diplomat, isn't supposed to be a diplomat, and I don't want to waste time on a President who is.

Of course you don't, and neither does the great majority of the electorate, that was my point, and thats why he has to wave his dick around to the mob to show us he is bigger, but then has to play nice with foreign leaders. I don't think he should have to do either.

But in point of fact, the president has to be diplomatic if he wants to keep the people safe. The duty of a diplomat is not to be nice for the sake of it, there is a motive and a goal behind most diplomatic action. The reality is, strong-arming people works less often (unless you are prepared to pay with lives) and when it does the rewards are less permanent. This shouldn't even be a point of contention, any idiot knows humans don't respond well to threats. They may serenader now, but they'll brood. Better by far to eliminate them behinds the scenes without any fanfare at all. Strong arming them and threatening them may take a lot less time, but doesn't solve the fundamental problem. Any potential enemy who is smart (Saddam clearly wasn't) can just wait out a president, who is thrown into a chess game he didn't start and is expected to make one or two moves then give it up to some one else.

You are absolutely right that he needed to do things this way, because he has to do something, and given his limited amount of time it's either move the pawn on the one turn he has, or wait for the clock to run out. But he cannot set up the board in any meaningful way.

361 posted on 05/19/2005 3:22:33 PM PDT by Pelayo ("If there is hope... it lies in the quixotics." - Me)
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To: patriciaruth

Suit yourself. It's a free country. You can be as stupid and as irrational as you like. You probably voted for Buchanan too.


362 posted on 05/19/2005 6:48:08 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk
You can be as stupid and as irrational as you like. You probably voted for Buchanan too.

Huh?

LOL!

No, you can thank me or blame me for President Bush. I don't care for Buchanan.

363 posted on 05/19/2005 6:57:20 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spans)
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To: patriciaruth

What's the sound and smell that my wife and kids hate...especially after a tex-mex dinner...yeah...that's it. I feel much better now...or don't you agree with that??


364 posted on 05/19/2005 8:14:23 PM PDT by USMMA_83 (Tantra is my fetish ;))
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To: Jon Alvarez

George Lucas has his new studio at the former Presidio military base in San Francisco, CA. He is also a resident of Moron County, which is the home of Ratboy John Walker, so that gives a frame of reference to how he thinks.

I could tell a ton of negative stories I've heard about his studio and affiliated companies.


365 posted on 05/19/2005 10:11:58 PM PDT by stratman1969 (End Judicial Tyranny)
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To: Pelayo
I don't think he should have to do either.

I'm beginning to think that's because you live in a different world from me. Where I live leadership is required.

Ultimately the only individuals responsible for those lives where the ones who took them.

If someone raped my daughter I would only blame the rapist. But there are things I can teach her to reduce her chances of being raped. I am a negligent parent if I don't teach her those things.

We could have done some things to lesson the likelihood of 9/11. Recognizing that there are monsters in the world who only respect the willingness to react violently is one of those things. Lobbing cruise missiles into empty tents was not.

I agree to disagree with you. Have a great weekend.

Shalom.

366 posted on 05/20/2005 5:56:45 AM PDT by ArGee (Why do we let the abnormal tell us what's normal?)
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To: Savage_Nation
Dude, you need to sit down and shut up. If you (or anyone else) does not have anything better to do with their time than to pick apart films they have not even seen looking for hidden meanings then maybe you should get a frickin' job and move the hell out of your mother's basement.

Geez! It's a movie, people!

367 posted on 05/20/2005 7:27:31 AM PDT by Houmatt (Jeb Bush is a moron. Tracking devices on sex offenders? Give me a break!)
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To: VictoryGal
Pick cheap matinee with candy and water you bring in yourself

Lucas most likely doesn't get a cut of the concessions. That's how the theaters make money. They probably pay more for the showing of film at the matinee than they take in in revenue, even with a mostly full theater.

368 posted on 05/20/2005 10:05:13 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: ArGee
I'm beginning to think that's because you live in a different world from me.

Perhaps. But more likely I just don't see the world the same way you do.

Where I live leadership is required.

What you call leadership I call demagoguery. But you're right, where you and I live it is required. I just don't like it.

369 posted on 05/20/2005 11:17:02 AM PDT by Pelayo ("If there is hope... it lies in the quixotics." - Me)
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To: Borges
'Hidden Meaning' is just another way of saying subtext. Andy Warhol eh? Art has been political roughly since Homer.

Subtext ? So 'art' now includes subtext ? That must be why I usually end up laughing out loud when I walk through a modern art exhibit. Art is no longer art. Its subtext.

Andy popularized it. Made it the norm.

370 posted on 05/20/2005 1:33:40 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

I was talking about Art in general. Movies, novels. Warhol's Pomo work is just one end of a broad spectrum.


371 posted on 05/20/2005 1:39:10 PM PDT by Borges
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To: endthematrix
The interesting and for me exciting special effects in Star Wars is computer based imagery. In these last three made episodes its almost impossible to tell graphics from reality. Unless of course you have a trained eye. Yes there are some very cheesy effects, but these were meant to be that way. In effect, Star Wars is the type of movie a 15 year old adolescent would make if they had millions to spend. Very adolescent story line but the computer effects are about the only thing that interests me. Very cutting edge work there.

Back in the very early days of computer special effects, there was a direct link between Silicon Valley Computer Manufacturers and Hollywood Special Effects Studios. The two were probably not looked at as seperate entities. Lucas probably moved north to get closer to the desk sized graphics supercomputers that were being made in the Silicon Valley.

372 posted on 05/20/2005 1:49:43 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Borges

Got ya. Heck some are even claiming that the Last Supper has hidden meaning. Look for the new 'Hollywood' movie coming to a theater near you (Da Vinci Code).


374 posted on 05/20/2005 1:53:55 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Well its one of the highest selling novels of all time. Are you really surprised a movie was made.


375 posted on 05/20/2005 1:55:43 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Savage_Nation

A couple of friends of mine went to see the matinee and asked me if I wanted to go. I politely declined. I'll be waiting for cable for this turkey.


376 posted on 05/20/2005 1:59:16 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: TomasUSMC

Could you point us at a source for that. I kinda figured he would.


377 posted on 05/20/2005 2:09:49 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
I saw the movie last night and recommend it 100 %. If someone wants they can say that the Chancellor is Bush, they are nuts. The Chancellor is evil and suspect from the beginning and sure liberals will think that way, so what. Republicans can see the movie. For my part the question is who would you say the Jedi are in todays society - and that is for those who MUST make the connection. Another question is - is it Futile to know the future.

This movie was the only one I've seen where the battlefields in the souls and minds of the individuals dwarfed the real physical warfare.
378 posted on 05/20/2005 2:21:41 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: TomasUSMC

It was great. I was on the edge of my seat for pretty much the the whole 2/5 hours, and even after reading Lucas' comments I just did *not* see overt bashing.

"This movie was the only one I've seen where the battlefields in the souls and minds of the individuals dwarfed the real physical warfare."

Yep. The torment for Anakin was palpable, and knowing in advance where he was going to end up was very wrenching. Lucas has a lot of woodenness in his movies, but this movie was much better in that regard.


379 posted on 05/20/2005 2:25:50 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Motherbear

Revenge of the Sith was filmed concurrently with Attack of the Clones....so before the Iraq War.


380 posted on 05/20/2005 2:48:59 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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