Liberal Bible-Thumping

The New York Times ^ | 15 MAY 2005 | NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

[rdb3]

Liberals can and should confront Bible-thumping preachers on their own terms, for the scriptural emphasis on justice and compassion gives the left plenty of ammunition. After all, the Bible depicts Jesus as healing lepers, not slashing Medicaid.

It kills me how the Left remakes Jesus to be a socialist. Let them continue, for their remake of Christ fools no one.

[Rome2000]

What is it with Episcopalians?

Whats next, Jesus in a pink thong?

[k2blader]

"The Sins of Scripture," which examines why the Bible - for all its message of love and charity - has often been used through history to oppose democracy and women's rights, to justify slavery and even mass murder.

The Bible justifies none of this. What causes evil is the heart of man.

[KeyWest]

John Shelby Spong, the former bishop...

He has been off the wall for ages and everything brought up has been brought up and shot down ages ago. Nothing new here.

The stupidity of the article is that if some nut on the left makes assertions, we are obligated to debate them as possibly true even after they have been proved false. But if we challenge their beliefs, we are intolerant, narrow minded and not open to new ideas (even if they are old and disproved).

[D-fendr]

Former Bishop?

Spong went over to the Dark Side long ago.

[Yosemitest]

Liberal are vile!

Isaiah 32     Read This Chapter

Isaiah 32:1-8

1 Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment. 2 And a man shall be as an hiding place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest; as rivers of water in a dry place, as the shadow of a great ^F159 rock in a weary land. 3 And the eyes of them that see shall not be dim, and the ears of them that hear shall hearken. 4 The heart also of the rash ^F160 shall understand knowledge, and the tongue of the stammerers shall be ready to speak plainly. 5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful. 6 For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail. 7 The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy ^F161 speaketh right. 8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand. ^F162

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FOOTNOTES:
F159: great: Heb. heavy
F160: rash: Heb. hasty
F161: the needy...: or, he speaketh against the poor in judgment
F162: stand: or, be established

 

The King James Version (Authorized)

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What else needs to be said?

[melsec]

John Shelby Spong, the former bishop, tosses a hand grenade into the cultural wars with "The Sins of Scripture," which examines why the Bible - for all its message of love and charity - has often been used through history to oppose democracy and women's rights, to justify slavery and even mass murder. The answer to this is that people wrestle the scriptires to their own destruction. Bishop Spong you can ask them about this when you meet them in hell.

[anniegetyourgun]

Verse 6 is this old heretic (Spong) to the letter.

[NYer]

"How many winds of doctrine have we known in recent decades, how many ideological currents, how many ways of thinking. The small boat of the thought of many Christians has often been tossed about by these waves - flung from one extreme to another: from Marxism to liberalism, even to libertinism; from collectivism to radical individualism; from atheism to a vague religious mysticism; from agnosticism to syncretism and so forth. Every day new sects spring up, and what St Paul says about human deception and the trickery that strives to entice people into error (cf. Eph 4: 14) comes true. "
HOMILY OF HIS EMINENCE CARD. JOSEPH RATZINGER
DEAN OF THE COLLEGE OF CARDINALS
«PRO ELIGENDO ROMANO PONTIFICE»

Spong and the openly homosexual ECUSA Bishop Vicki Gene Robinson prove Ratzinger's point.

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[moog]

It kills me how the Left remakes Jesus to be a socialist. Let them continue, for their remake of Christ fools no one.

Indeed.

[moog]

Spong went over to the Dark Side long ago.

Does that mean he is one of the Sith, went to the other part of the moon, or went somewhere that does not see the light of day:0?

[ktvaughn]

IMO, it is blasphemous to presume the mind of the Lord as to who will go to Hell. It is not yours to judge.

[KateatRFM]

If not blasphemous, it is certainly taking on powers that you do not have. My sister got really angry with me when i told her that Ted Bundy might have gone to heaven, but we don't know what happened between him and his Lord at the end of his life. God said that He would redeem whom He would redeem.

[CauseEverything]

A Star Wars reference in a post and an analog synthesizer for a name? Awesome.

[secret garden]

Spong is still crazy ping. Crazy in an evil way.

[moog]

A Star Wars reference in a post and an analog synthesizer for a name? Awesome.

Synthesizers have a lot of force in them.

[carlr]

for the scriptural emphasis on justice and compassion gives the left plenty of ammunition.

Liberals discussing the Bible is like me talking about childbirth,I know it exists but have no idea what it is like to experience.
The Bibles emphasis is on the nature of man and the nature of God.
Starting with mans creation,which libs almost always reject,to his fall which gives us all a sin nature,the concept of again liberals reject,continuing on through the promise of a redeemer.
Starting with the New Testament the miraculous birth and life of Christ,offering himself on the cross as the sacrifice made to restore us to relationship with God,this also liberals reject preferring the social gospel of good works to redeem ourselves.
Any of Jesus teachings regarding the poor and downtrodden was in the context of the hypocritical religious leaders of the day who viewed piety and show as being more important than spirituality.This is also in line with the lib philosophy that feelings trump actions,like Robert Kennedy flying on his private jet to give a lecture on energy conservation and how evil SUVs are.

[Mr Ramsbotham]

"Once more to the breech,
Dear friends, I beseech!"
The Episcopal Bishop harangued.
"For Heaven awaits,
Who broaches the nates,
And all Biblical scruples be hanged!"

[StonyBurk]

My response to the reprobate apostates of the Episcopal
church (note such is NOT all inclusive-for there ought be a
remnant even there that is not swayed by the deciever)
my response is found in 2 John verses 10,11 --and Jude verses 8,9 . I seem to recall that old serpent used twisted
Scripture to wholly seduce Eve in the Garden--and also attmepted use twisted Scripture in the temptation of the Christ in the wilderness.Eve was seduced and responded of her own lust. Christ responded by the appropriate Spirit led Scripture citation.We ought know enough to do likewise.

[ViLaLuz]

Beware of wolves in sheeps' clothing...