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Programming Note: Discovery Channel:: Alien Planet
Discovery Channel ^ | 05/14/05

Posted on 05/14/2005 2:31:00 PM PDT by KevinDavis

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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping, Quix. I'll be sure to tune in.


21 posted on 05/14/2005 4:27:04 PM PDT by janetgreen (Minuteman Project = American Patriotism)
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To: Paul Atreides

Not if the planet had intelligent life.


22 posted on 05/14/2005 4:46:39 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (My US Army daughter out shot everybody in her basic training company.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Got someone whose going to TIVO this for me, do you realize it is four hours long? From 8 till midnight.

That trailer was way kool!


23 posted on 05/14/2005 4:50:17 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: KevinDavis

Looks like the democrat convention.


24 posted on 05/14/2005 4:57:22 PM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: janetgreen; All

Indulge me, please.

Pretend that all this fluff about imaginary creatures that are guesses built upon guesses built upon guesses multiple layers deep . . .

Pretend that all the stuff the show has shown is distraction. That the message intended from the program is rather subtle, covert.

What would the purpose of the program be?




Different topic:

BTW, There was an idiot scientist pontificating about how life began by chance upon chance accident upon accident. Then he proceeded to take a flying leap of illogic and call all life precious.

Life cannot be more precious than non-life if ALL is merely a function of chance plus time.


25 posted on 05/14/2005 6:53:06 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: tet68
It was only two hours long, it is being rebroadcast from 10 to midnight EST. It was still a pretty cool program. I'd call it Science Fiction though, but it was sprinkled with some fairly good commentary from different thinkers
26 posted on 05/14/2005 8:03:11 PM PDT by Paradox (In my heart, I will always be something of a Liberal, in my head, a Conservative. Head wins.)
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To: Quix

I'm watching it now. I missed the first fifteen minutes, so I have no opinion yet.


27 posted on 05/14/2005 8:29:36 PM PDT by janetgreen (Minuteman Project = American Patriotism)
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To: janetgreen

UNDERSTAND. Thanks.


28 posted on 05/14/2005 9:06:41 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: Quix
"...There was an idiot scientist pontificating about how life began by chance upon chance accident upon accident. Then he proceeded to take a flying leap of illogic and call all life precious.

Life cannot be more precious than non-life if ALL is merely a function of chance plus time..."


That which is rare is precious and valuable. Diamonds are the result of random carbon distribution and ages of pressure. Even though carbon is common and abundant, we consider diamonds to be "precious" and more valuable than charcoal. You need to be a bit more careful tossing the "idiot" word about.
29 posted on 05/14/2005 9:27:30 PM PDT by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: KevinDavis

If we discovered an Earth-like planet the envirofreaks on Earth would declare it off limits claiming it must be preserved as a park.


30 posted on 05/14/2005 9:33:35 PM PDT by Chewbacca (My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead, and thats the way I like it!)
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To: Rebel_Ace

You may well be right about me and "idiot."

But such characters drearily weary me sometimes.

I would submit that diamonds would have no more value than soot had God not created us with standards of beauty and value which accrue to such phenomena as scarcity influencing value.

But I have too many other priorities to draw that out tediously.

Thanks for your kind response.


31 posted on 05/14/2005 9:40:42 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: Quix
What would the purpose of the program be?

Maybe the beginning of subtle preparation of the masses for some disclosure of alien presence? I watched the program, and realize that there was a lot of thought and imaginative work put into it, but I found it uncomfortable to watch for some reason.

You think a lot deeper on subjects like this than I do, Quix. What do you think about this program? I'll watch for your comment tomorrow, I'm tired, and my pillow is calling...

32 posted on 05/14/2005 10:09:27 PM PDT by janetgreen (Minuteman Project = American Patriotism)
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To: Quix

> diamonds would have no more value than soot had God not created us with standards of beauty and value which accrue to such phenomena as scarcity influencing value.

As far as beuaty... diamonds are hardly more beautiful than many a far more available substance. And as far as value in scarcity... that's basic economics.


33 posted on 05/14/2005 10:18:24 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: orionblamblam

The notion that random meaningless chance can produce anything greater than random meaningless chance is the height or more accurately the Z number last depths of illogic.

About as much as I want to go into it.

Thanks for your kind reply.


34 posted on 05/14/2005 10:24:53 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: Quix

> The notion that random meaningless chance can produce anything greater than random meaningless chance is ...

...pretty basic stuff. For instance, I've seen people pay good money for "art" which was the result of random actions creating items of undisputed complexity and beauty.


35 posted on 05/14/2005 10:28:53 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: janetgreen

My shower and pillow are calling, too.

I agree. Very creative. But the scientists were brash arrogant pontificators, to me. Soooooo much over the top presumption.

I was uncomfortable with it, too.

I think prep for aliens is always an agenda on such programs.

But there seemed to be something even more sinister that I can't put my finger on quite yet . . .

Perhaps it was something along the line that there is no right or wrong. There is no God. There is only existence and death. Nothing makes any difference. But ain't the drama fun.

Woop woop. Nonsense.

I think it was the underlying nihlism that disturbed me so much. Hard to say.


36 posted on 05/14/2005 10:29:01 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: KevinDavis

We may find life, Jim... But not as we know it... ;o)


37 posted on 05/14/2005 10:58:11 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach; All

Ditto.......


38 posted on 05/15/2005 6:14:51 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Quix

> Perhaps it was something along the line that there is no right or wrong. There is no God.

I sure would like to see the trail of "logic" that leads you to think such a bizarre thing. No mention of gods, positive or negative, was made.

Or perhaps you think God is so limitted that he created this entire universe, but only allowed the birth and evolution of life to occur once?


39 posted on 05/15/2005 6:26:12 AM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: KevinDavis

Well if God is involved, there will likely be beetles.


40 posted on 05/15/2005 6:27:16 AM PDT by bert (Rename Times Square......... Rudy Square.)
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