Hillary vs. Allen [Robert Novak]

townhall.com ^ | May 14, 2005 | Robert Novak

[IamConservative]

"Good Grief i pray we are not stuck with Hillary in 08 can you picture 4 - 8 years of that witch destroying this country?"

She is presently a defendant in a felony prosecution. Might be hard to run from the clink..

[WoodstockCat]

I'm firmly 100% in Allen's corner I'll be his number 1 supporter in Woodstock, GA if he runs in 2008.
I'm chomping at the bit to write checks to George Allen 2008.
I was simply trying to push the recognition of how unique Reagan was and the attempts to paint whoever as the next Reagan don't do justice to "The Great Communicator" and are unfair comparisons to the person in question.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Not only that, but ? if you thought that the ground swell that was mounted against John Kerry was something, just wait until the Republicans/Conservatives mount a full champaign against Hitlery, it will make the Presidential Champaign against Kerry look like a walk in the park on a Sunday afternoon ( and the last Presidential Champaign brought out the Amish to vote, and when you can get the Amish to come out to vote, then, it is something serious ).
If you thought the commitment do defeat John Kerry was something, Hitlery is a Male/Republican/Conservative worst nightmare if she were to be elected as President, and we know that Rush and Sean Hannity will be even more forceful and more vocal about Hilery then they were ever towards John Kerry.
The problem that we will face in the 2008 election is not the Republicans coming out to vote and have a successful champaign against Hitlery, but ? it will be the MSM and Hitlery's champaign machine making her look like a moderate, or even ( cough, cough, OMG .. a Conservative Christian ).
It's the brainwashed " SHEEPLE " that will be our problem this time around in the 2008 election ( I am not saying, the SHEEPLE was not brainwashed in the last election ) but, THANK GOD FOR THE NEW MEDIA.
We will have to mount a successful champaign towards the American voters that Hitlery is your typical extreme radical LIBERAL that she always have been,,, AND IS ! a WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.
If there is a bright spot in 2008, is that George Allen is a fresh new face in the Presidential Champaign, and we won't have the Liberal/Democrat/Only voting for Kerry because they hate Bush voters.
Take care.
George Allen 2008 !!

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Your right, remember the historical trends the Liberals were counting on in 2004 ? for example ? the Boston Red Sox haven't won the would series in all them years, and the last time they won, it was a Democrat who won the election that years, so ? Historical Trends can not always be counted on, or reliable.

[daler]

Allen's a good guy, but Senators tend not to win the WH, for some strange reason (JFK excepted).

I like Pawlenty...if not in 2008, in 2012.

[tame]

I'm firmly 100% in Allen's corner I'll be his number 1 supporter in Woodstock, GA if he runs in 2008. I'm chomping at the bit to write checks to George Allen 2008.

speaking of that, i'm going to start a strategery thread to get all available freepers and conservatives to spend 2 weeks to a month in Florida or Ohio or New Mexico just before the election.

we already know this is these are the crucial battleground states that we MUST win. So we need to plan ahead. i bet i can get mama_bear to travel to Ohio :o)

[tame]

He refused to join Kerry at a point when Kerry was up in the polls. To add to this, McCain would have had a lot easier time pushing his influence in a Kerry administration (could Kerry even stand up to him?) than he would a Hillary administration.

McCain knew in his heart that Kerry was going to lose. Plus, he may be drifting more and more leftwards and away from the GOP.

[tame]

it will be the MSM and Hitlery's champaign machine making her look like a moderate, or even ( cough, cough, OMG .. a Conservative Christian ).

lol! not to worry, though. by the time the GOP is finished with her (IF they do their jobs), she sure won't look like a conservative christian.

plus, i think those video tapes will be resurrected of her arguin with Slick Willie--not a very classy sight.

[tame]

Allen's a good guy, but Senators tend not to win the WH, for some strange reason (JFK excepted). I like Pawlenty...if not in 2008, in 2012.

Good grief, when are you guys going to drop the superstitious "historical trend" baloney. it's absolutely meaningless for reasons cited above (please see post 51).

the "historical trend" argument seems to be as vacuous a superstition as reading the horoscope.

by all "historical trends", Dubya NEVER should have won re-election. but, guess what, he did. and george allen will clean hitler's clock.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

I would love to see those video tapes made public, and for our pleasure to watch.
I wish someone would have the tapes or broadcast of the Bolton Hearing a few weeks ago, were George Allen gave Babs Botox boxer a stern look in his eye for being her obnoxious liberal self, and put her back in her place.

[tame]

Historical Trends can not always be counted on, or reliable.

not only that, but "historical trends" were no the trend until they became the trend.

so by the logic of the "trend" apologists themselves, certain events never should have become trends since they were not a trend before they became trends.

that is to say, the events that constitute any particular "trend" were once not a trend. but since these events were once first time events, then they were not likely to happen (given the reasoning of the "trend" apologists) since they would have been unlikely historical "firsts" at one time.

confusing? yes. the "trend" argument is full of confusion.

[tame]

I wish someone would have the tapes or broadcast of the Bolton Hearing a few weeks ago, were George Allen gave Babs Botox boxer a stern look in his eye for being her obnoxious liberal self, and put her back in her place.

me, too. i missed that. maybe they are on the cspan.org website! if anyone finds them, please link them here.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Yup... must have been a Carl Rove plan to have his dad as the legendary couch... and the historical win/loss pattern and GOP candidates.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

If anything, George Allen would be wise to have Carl Rove as his champaign manager for his Presidential champaign.

[R. Scott]

As long as it's only on TV.

[tame]

go to this cspan.org page to view "videos" of George Allen (before the 2004 election). the link at the top of the page is George Allen on cspan's washington journal:

Here!

[tame]

click this link to find the "videos" of the Bolton confirmantion hearings (w/ George Allen)

[Reader of news]

The GOP needs a candidate like President Bush: a candidate that is a leader, strong on defense, pro-tax cuts and pro-Ownership Society.

[varon]

My 70% prediction is a health problem will take Hillary out of the 2008 race.

Nothing short of a fatal health problem will keep that b*tch from running.