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Firing Smokers - Reading Beyond the Headlines
United Pro Smoker's Rights ^ | 5-11-05 | Stephanie Armour

Posted on 05/14/2005 8:42:05 AM PDT by SheLion

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To: SolidRedState
Corporate totalitarianism. We let these people get away with things we would NEVER allow our government to do.

Good post. Some masters are better than others, but a slave is still a slave.

241 posted on 05/14/2005 6:40:23 PM PDT by Concentrate
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To: SheLion
I just got this in email!

Interestingly enough, this is from their privacy policy:

As part of the Seneca Nation of Indians and the Iroquois Confederacy, OrderSmokesDirect is currently not required to collect state sales tax for products sold on Native land. Nonetheless, we are required under federal law to report all sales and shipments of cigarettes to the state taxing authority within your home state. You should contact the taxing authority within your state to determine your tax obligation on the use of these products within your state.

242 posted on 05/14/2005 7:28:28 PM PDT by Concentrate
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You will get no arguement from me over your concerns - I agree with you.


243 posted on 05/14/2005 7:42:24 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: SheLion
At Investors Property Management in Seattle, smokers are not hired.
Kind of stands the EEO laws on their heads doesn't it. If these practices are allowed to stand then the EEO laws should be scrapped as there is no difference in the discrimination.

If "smokers are not hired" then what is the difference with "blacks are not hired", "queers are not hired", "disabled are not hired" or "Jews or Catholics are not hired"? I see none.

244 posted on 05/14/2005 7:43:23 PM PDT by philman_36 ("It’s a legal document, and legal documents do not change." Scalia)
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To: SheLion

Thanks---I will check them out---I'm just getting around to this lengthy thread.

The beat goes on,doesn't it?


245 posted on 05/14/2005 8:44:33 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Mears

bump


246 posted on 05/14/2005 8:53:25 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Mears

One last bump and I'm calling it a night...........NIGHT!!!!


247 posted on 05/14/2005 10:27:36 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Publius6961

How did you get perverts out of addicts? Inquiring minds want to know.


248 posted on 05/15/2005 3:53:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: bigdcaldavis

LOL! Johnson should have lit a match...


249 posted on 05/15/2005 4:55:15 AM PDT by ViLaLuz
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To: Publius6961
Steady there...

This thread alone has enough good posts to make the anti-smoking taliban wish they had panties on their heads instead.

On second thought, you are so right!


250 posted on 05/15/2005 5:30:23 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Gabz
ROFL!!! I do drink, but there is not enough beer in the world to get me plastered enough to get through some of these threads!!!!

I sure hear that!  If I did drink, it would make it easier for me to get suspended!  Can you imagine if I got tipsy what all I would write in here?  Some people would think I was a trucker. LOL!

No offense to the truckers, but we all know they are 'down to earth people' who use colorful language. hehe!

251 posted on 05/15/2005 5:32:41 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Just Kimberly
This is a subject I am passionate about because it is ONE MORE WAY to attempt to control society. Some things MUST be controlled, some things MUST be regulated, some things MUST be deemed illegal and kept from society. But taking away my right as an American to smoke, is like taking away my right as an American to own a gun. Some things are sacred and need to be left ALONE. Period.

They are also working hard to ban guns by way of the assault weapons.  Where will it stop?  Why are American's losing their Freedom of Choice?  We are losing it slowly but surely.

252 posted on 05/15/2005 5:42:41 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: bigdcaldavis

Soon it will be illegal to sell fast food and junk food to anyone under 18...and when they make 21 the legal smoking age, they will make 21 the legal junk/fast food age. And soon fast food outlets will have signs that say "THE VERICHIP IS THE ONLY VALID ID ACCEPTED HERE."

And that's the day THEY won't be getting any more of my money.  No damn chip for me!


253 posted on 05/15/2005 5:45:27 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: bigdcaldavis
"monitoring them as well"? What's he gonna do? Make them get Verichips or GPS ankle bracelets?

He said that he has a kit to check urine randomly of his employers that said they quit smoking.  They have to undergo this testing at random.  And he also checks brief cases and ladies purses to see if they are sneaking in cigarettes.  I just can't wrap my brain around this. 

254 posted on 05/15/2005 5:47:34 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: philman_36
If "smokers are not hired" then what is the difference with "blacks are not hired", "queers are not hired", "disabled are not hired" or "Jews or Catholics are not hired"? I see none.

Where does it end?  Like I said:  pretty soon, no one will be fit to be hired. 

255 posted on 05/15/2005 5:50:41 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Mears
The beat goes on, doesn't it?

On and on.  I watch Fox News every day.  They were hitting smokers and smoking really hard this past week.  It was getting so bad I almost turned them off.

Now they say that there is a vaccine coming for smokers that will help us quit.  Has it ever occurred to any of these idiots that a lot of us do not WANT to quit smoking???

The news this week was really trying to shame the smokers................again.

256 posted on 05/15/2005 5:53:03 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Rickkimble
Fire anyone who is obese.

Well, I am afraid that is next.  The Surgeon General said that Obesity is passing smoking as the number one killer.


258 posted on 05/15/2005 6:00:19 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
Why would they come for me? And besides, I don't plan to depend on anyone else for a job.

You don't have customers you depend on for a job?

Beyond that, how would you react if "they" decided not to sell you gasoline because you drove the wrong kind of car? Or allow you to board public transportation because you eat meat? Or go to a restaurant because of something else you do on your own time? Even the most extreme libertarian should be able to see the problems with those with power dictating lifestyles to those without power, reagardless of whether the government or the private sector is the source of the power. It wasn't goveernment that bought and sold slaves.

259 posted on 05/15/2005 6:19:10 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
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To: SheLion

LOL!!!!!

You won't find me on these threads if I have been drinking - nor if I am cranky from lack of sleep.


260 posted on 05/15/2005 6:36:09 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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