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Rush Limbaugh vs. Gloria Borger (CBS LIAR-GATE)
Slate ^ | 5/13/05 | Mickey Kaus

Posted on 05/13/2005 7:38:40 AM PDT by pissant

Blogstorm warning: Rush Limbaugh clearly thinks he's caught CBS in another Rather-style anti-GOP screwup--he charges that Gloria Borger quoted Kenneth Starr dissing the Republican's "nuclear option" when Starr was in fact talking about something else. Lucianne, Powerline, and Patterico seem to agree. I'm not so sure.

The video of Borger's Monday CBS report is available on this page, and this is the transcript. Here's the most relevant portion:

BORGER: ... But this fight goes way beyond Senate rules. This is a monumental battle about the future of the courts. Just who gets to sit on the Supreme Court? And should we appoint justices who want to rule on everything from abortion to gay marriage to civil rights?

That's why many conservatives consider the fight over judges their political Armageddon. But conservative icon and former federal Judge Ken Starr says it's gotten out of control.

Mr. KENNETH STARR (Dean, Pepperdine University School of Law): This is a radical, radical departure from our history and from our traditions, and it amounts to an assault on the judicial branch of government.

BORGER: Starr, who investigated the Monica Lewinsky case against President Clinton, tells CBS News that the Republican plan to end the filibuster may be unwise.

Mr. STARR: It may prove to have the kind of long-term boomerang effect, damage on the institution of the Senate that thoughtful senators may come to regret.

BORGER: Still, Starr thinks all judges should be allowed a vote, even if they're Democrats ... [Emphasis added]

Borger does wrench the first Starr sentence ("radical, radical") into something approximating the context Starr says it was given in--not a discussion of the anti-filibuster "nuclear option," but of the new, Bork-era practice of voting against "qualified" judges if you don't like their judicial philosophy.

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; dhpl; gloriaborger; kennethstarr; rushbo; seebsnews
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Kaus takes Borger's side!
1 posted on 05/13/2005 7:38:40 AM PDT by pissant
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To: b4its2late; Recovering_Democrat; Alissa; Pan_Yans Wife; LADY J; mathluv; browardchad; cardinal4; ...

2 posted on 05/13/2005 7:41:15 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: MamaTexan

driven snow PING


3 posted on 05/13/2005 7:42:10 AM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: pissant

Is that a transcript of the show or the interview? The difference between the two is the whole issue. CBS won't release the transcript of the interview.


4 posted on 05/13/2005 7:42:48 AM PDT by black_diamond
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To: pissant
That's to be expected.

What Kaus conveniently forgets to mention is that Ms. Borger took Mr. Starr's words totally out of context and twisted them around to mean something he did not say.

It would be nice if other media outlets would pick up this story---but I'm not going to hold my breath!

5 posted on 05/13/2005 7:43:04 AM PDT by Prov3456
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To: pissant
I'm not so sure.

Perhaps if cBS would release the entire interview, per Ken Starr's request we could clear this LIE up. Kaus is a LIBERAL first, no wonder he's not so sure.

He must think Ken Starr can't remember what he thinks or said????

6 posted on 05/13/2005 7:43:25 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: pissant
Mr. KENNETH STARR (Dean, Pepperdine University School of Law): This is a radical, radical departure from our history and from our traditions, and it amounts to an assault on the judicial branch of government.

Isn't it clear he was talking about the abuse of using the filibuster.

7 posted on 05/13/2005 7:46:43 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: black_diamond

That looks like the transcript of the show, which Starr has alleged, in the email, cBS altered from the interview. I note that just prior to Starr's quote, we read the setup by Borger, not the question which elicited that specific response.


8 posted on 05/13/2005 7:47:19 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: pissant

Can Micky explain why, if CBS is not guilty, it's refusing to turn over the transcript?


9 posted on 05/13/2005 7:47:49 AM PDT by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: black_diamond

No, its only pieces cobbled together by Mickey Kaus


10 posted on 05/13/2005 7:48:12 AM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: pissant
If my hunch is right, then CBS can embarrass Limbaugh for deceptively running together two separate Starr quotes as if they were part of a single answer. How can they resist?
Well, since CBS is the one who's holding back the full transcript, Rush Limbaugh can scarcely be blamed for the fact that he doesn't emphasize anything else which CBS may subsequently reveal in the transcript, now can he?

11 posted on 05/13/2005 7:50:43 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: Prov3456

agreed. Hope Rush keeps slapping them.


12 posted on 05/13/2005 7:50:48 AM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: pissant

I heard Dick Durbin or one of the other Rat Senators spewing out this CBS article on C-Spin yesterday.


13 posted on 05/13/2005 7:50:54 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Mister Baredog

Kaus is still OK, for a liberal anyhow. He's being a bit cautious, instead of calling Rush a big fat liar like every other Slate writer would.


14 posted on 05/13/2005 7:51:49 AM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: Always Right

Gloria is a slithering tramp.


15 posted on 05/13/2005 7:52:17 AM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: SouthCarolinaKit

Mickey is at least asking CBS to turn it over.


16 posted on 05/13/2005 7:53:06 AM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

CBS is gonna have to come clean!


17 posted on 05/13/2005 7:54:00 AM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: Piquaboy

Dick Durbin is a genuine POS


18 posted on 05/13/2005 7:54:15 AM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: pissant
Of course, it's possible the video will show Starr urging senators to (cautiously and prudently) adopt the anti-filibuster rule change even though it might "boomerang" and "damage the institution."** In that case Borger was deceptive--and Scheiffer was wrong when he said, later in Borger's report, that Starr was "coming out on what looks like the opposite side of many [in] the conservative wing of the Republican party."

Hey Mickey Kaus, Starr could have been trying to saying that the RAT filibusters might "boomerang" and "damage the institution", because that's what it looks like if you read his e-mail. If so, the Borger-deception is worse than you admit.
19 posted on 05/13/2005 7:55:39 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: pissant

One Filibuster in 1968 is the foundation of history?


20 posted on 05/13/2005 7:57:16 AM PDT by funkywbr
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