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Bishop Bars Activist, Lesbian/Pro-abortion Writer from Speaking at Catholic Retreat House
North Jersey Newspapers | 05.11.05 | Maya Kremen

Posted on 05/12/2005 6:27:14 PM PDT by Coleus

Writer banned from speaking at retreat

Diocese of Paterson Bishop Arthur J. Serratelli has banned a writer who supports abortion rights and female ordination from speaking to a lay Catholic group on church property.

Angela Bonavoglia , a self-de­scribed "itinerant Catholic," was scheduled to speak tonight to a lo­cal branch of the lay group Voice of the Faithful at the Jesuit Loyola Retreat in Morristown. But at the last minute, the diocese asked the Jesuits there to "disinvite" Bonavoglia, saying that her views oppose church doctrine, according to a diocesan spokeswoman.

The ban marks the first time a Paterson bishop has specifically in­terfered with a meeting planned by Voice of the Faithful. Since its in­ception in 2002, the group, which openly questions elements of church dogma, has been banned from churches in the Archdiocese of Newark but has met about 20 times on Diocese of Paterson property. Though Serratelli has no plan to ban the group in the future, he intervened specifically in this case because of Bonavoglia's views on abortion rights, according to Marianna Thompson, the dio­cese's spokeswoman.

"This is a speaker who is not in tune with the basic teachings of the Catholic Church, including abortion," Thompson said on Tuesday by telephone. "While we affirm every person's right to free speech, we also hold fast to the doctrines of the faith and church teaching." Serratelli

Bonavoglia, of Westchester County, N.Y., has written two books, "The Choices We Have Made: 25 Women and Men Speak Out About Abortion," and "Good Catholic Girls: How Women are Leading the Fight to Change the Church." In a recent radio interview, she argued that the church's strict anti-abortion and anti-contraception stances have especially hurt women in the developing world. She said that the fact that women are shut out of ministry is one of the biggest prob­lems plaguing the church.

Voice of the Faithful leaders, who are not uniformly for abortion rights, said they invit­ed Bonavoglia to speak be­cause she has written positive­ly about their group.

They said she was not going to speak only about abortion but was planning to focus more broadly on women in the church.

"As long as we suppress di­alogue, we're stifling the pursuit of truth," said Maria Cleary, a North Jersey Voice of the Faithful organizer. "The last time we looked, we were free to talk in this country."

Bonavoglia said in a tele­phone conversation on Tues­day that her views are widely represented in the Catholic re­form movement and that shut­ting her out was shutting a whole group of Catholics out.

"I don't feel that it's fair to target me as a Catholic that has rejected church teachings," she said. "This hierarchy right now is lopping off whole groups of us for daring to hold an alter­native, equally legitimate posi­tion.

"To forbid dialogue, to for­bid people to bring their feel­ings and thoughts into our own church environment is an omi­nous direction for the church."

Instead of Loyola House, Voice of the Faithful will meet tonight at St. Mark's Lutheran Church, which is also in Morristown. While Bonavoglia was not happy about being banned from church property, she indi­cated that the new venue has one thing going for it.

"It has a woman pastor, which delights me to no end," she said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: bonavoglia; cary; catholic; catholiclist; catholics; homosexualagenda; lesbian; religiousleft; serratelli; votf
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To: Coleus

Shouldn't they call themselves "Voice of the Faithless" instead?


41 posted on 05/12/2005 8:00:20 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: NYer; Petronski

I love the graphic.


42 posted on 05/12/2005 8:01:26 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: Thorin
If David Duke were invited to a Catholic forum to speak, would you be concerned if he were "disinvited" 5 minutes before he was supposed to speak rather than 5 days beforehand?

If the "disinvitors" knew that Duke was going to speak a week before, I'd consider it a stunt by the disinvitors.

I don't like hot-doggin', whether done by ball players or Catholic bishops.

43 posted on 05/12/2005 8:02:53 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: NYer
How many bishops went along as a form of appeasement. Now they recognize their actions are being 'noticed'.

It's about time. I feel good reading an article like this one.

44 posted on 05/12/2005 8:02:57 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: vox_freedom; sinkspur; Luddite Patent Counsel
Are you suggesting a correlation between being "packed on Sundays" and being remotely "Catholic"?

My former parish was also packed on Sundays, with catholics who had a poor understanding of the GIRM and could not recognize the liturgical abuses that abounded in the Mass served up to them each week. Whereas the priest who dares to preach straight doctrine is often castigated for his reminders. I prefer the narrow path over the super highway.

45 posted on 05/12/2005 8:07:28 PM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: sinkspur

Went to the link of the church. I don't doubt that these folks are good Catholics, but why do we need to spend so much money and build churches that are so ugly? Catholics used to build beautiful churches, as anyone visiting Europe or even the older sections of American cities knows. The amazing thing is, most of these beautiful churches were built by Catholics who were quite poor. Now that many of us are wealthy and live in the suburbs, we build almost uniformly ugly churches.


46 posted on 05/12/2005 8:11:15 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Coleus; Northern Yankee
"...she argued that the church's strict anti-abortion and anti-contraception stances have especially hurt women in the developing world."

Would abortion really help or hurt women in "developing countries"? We know that 93% of women regret their abortion. We also know that there is a strong correlation between chemical contraception and abortion (in that order). Additionally, studies indicate that a woman who's had an abortion is 50% more likely to get breast cancer, and the percentage grows with multiple abortions. Why would anyone want to bring regret, pain and disease to "developing countries" as if it will help them, yet Ms. Supposed Catholic says the Church is actually hurting women by not providing abortion/chemical contraception. All this in support of her pro-abortion, pro-promiscuity agenda.

Abortion is legal in the US at any time during a woman's pregnancy, for any reason, by any means, even half way through the birth canal at abortuaries with no supervision, no rules of conduct, and no liability. Now who's hurting women? Yet, we as a society permit the atrocity of abortion to continue.

Catholics everywhere should take a stand for life; take a stand for God's precious infants who have no voice, and suffer and die without even the light of day.

Chemical contraception and abortion are pure evil. We shamelessly fail to protect 4,000+ of God's precious infants daily in the US who are killed by abortion. Wake-up Catholics!! Think about it and do some research, abortion and chemical contraception strikes at the very heart of our Church, and we need YOUR conversion first.
47 posted on 05/12/2005 8:11:23 PM PDT by Raquel (Abortion ruins lives.)
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To: NYer
"By their fruits you will know them."

Only on Free Republic is an empty church more fruitful than a packed church.

48 posted on 05/12/2005 8:14:09 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
You know, (another) really disgusting thing about these so-called "liturgical dancers" is . . . none of them can dance.

That guy's entire body (especially his hips, legs, and supporting foot) is so far out of line, it's a wonder he hasn't thrown his back out.

Our former ECUSA pastor invited a "liturgical dancer" once. She was AWFUL, she truly stank, and those of us who actually knew something about the art were cringing in our seats (I have a certificate in Theater and Dance, and my mom has been a professional dancer for 50+ years). I grabbed the pastor afterwards, and told him, "Look, I don't know what sort of theological justification there is for this sort of thing. But for heaven's sake, if you're going to do it, get a DANCER!" We never had another one.

49 posted on 05/12/2005 8:14:14 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Lady In Blue
As they say, you just know that after 23 years(?)as Prefect,Pope Benedict XVl knows where all of the bodies are!!

Lol ... In fact, there was an interview in this week's National Catholic Register with a priest who has worked with Rattinger for many years. He assured the interviewer that the new pontiff 'knows' the US bishops quite well.

What's it been? 3 weeks? And the changes are arriving in a steady stream. It's quite interesting to watch them squirm in their seats. Our diocesan paper now 'reports' the Vatican news with no editorial comments. In a diocese run by an ultra liberal, that's a major shift in journalism!

50 posted on 05/12/2005 8:14:28 PM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Coleus

I know the Bishops are starting to realize "there's a new sheriff in town" and his name is Benedict XVI!


51 posted on 05/12/2005 8:14:43 PM PDT by padfoot_lover
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To: sinkspur
"By their fruits you will know them."

Lol ... I've got an apple for you. I promise it will make you grow in wisdom!

52 posted on 05/12/2005 8:20:52 PM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Lady In Blue
>>>>As they say, you just know that after 23 years(?)as Prefect,Pope Benedict XVl knows where all of the bodies are!!

Amen!

53 posted on 05/12/2005 8:24:25 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: ELS

Its about time!


54 posted on 05/12/2005 8:24:53 PM PDT by Aleighanne
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To: Coleus

55 posted on 05/12/2005 8:47:23 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: NYer
My former parish was also packed on Sundays, with catholics who had a poor understanding of the GIRM and could not recognize the liturgical abuses that abounded in the Mass served up to them each week. Whereas the priest who dares to preach straight doctrine is often castigated for his reminders. I prefer the narrow path over the super highway.

I've seen those churches like the one you used to attend, the "super highway" churches. As someone who lost her faith and regained it again, I must say that one of the factors of my lost was these "super churches" -- whose attendees are either 1)zombie-like when they aren't looking for stimulation or 2) an obnoxious combination of Dr. Phil meets cheesy 70s style hippy-dippy guitar playing "Catholic faith communities". They'd walk out right after communion, not evening waiting for the end of the mass. And then they'd run each other over to get out of the parking lot. BUT THE CHURCH WAS ALWAYS PACKED ON SUNDAY!

Like Walker Percy in his days in the wilderness before he converted, I too thought, "if this is salvation, I don't want it."

56 posted on 05/12/2005 9:02:20 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: Coleus

>>> "I don't feel that it's fair to target me as a Catholic that has rejected church teachings," <<<<

Bhahahh

You just hafta LOL at what lefts say


58 posted on 05/13/2005 1:33:11 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: Coleus
Diocese of Paterson Bishop Arthur J. Serratelli has banned a writer who supports abortion rights and female ordination from speaking to a lay Catholic group on church property.

Excellent !!!!!!!

59 posted on 05/13/2005 1:35:16 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: Argus
Voice of the Faithful. Faithful to what?

From the article:

a meeting planned by Voice of the Faithful. Since its in­ception in 2002, the group, which openly questions elements of church dogma,

At least they seem to have stopped describing VOTF as "a group formed in response to the clergy sex abuse scandal." Progress of a sort!

60 posted on 05/13/2005 1:55:37 AM PDT by maryz
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