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To: jeltz25
All scholars I know of agree that Hitler's initial goal was to expel the Jews. Saint FDR, of course, turned them away (remember the St. Louis?) as did most European countries where they tried to flee. The Holocaust (e.g. mass extermination via shooting, then gas chambers) only began in 1942.

Of course, Hitler then killed his millions, following the footstept of our glorious ally Joe Stalin.

42 posted on 05/12/2005 3:27:01 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

That's just not accurate. Hitler wanted to kill the Jews all along. It's in Mein Kampf, it's in the captured documents. To say otherwise is just naive. Hitler stated before the Reichstag on 1-30-1939, 6+ moths before the war started, that if war were to happen, and he was dtermined thta it would the result would be "the annihilation of the Jewish race throughout Europe". Note the throughout Europe part, not just in Germany. Himmler addressing the SS office corps in 1943 "I want to talk to you about the extermination of the Jewish race. This is a page of glory in our history"

No one says Stalin wasn't bad but to imply that well "Stalin did bad stuff do, Hitler wasn't the only one" that's silly. They were both bad guys.


50 posted on 05/12/2005 4:03:05 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Captain Kirk

That is incorrect. Jews were being shot in Poland in
1939 weeks after the start of WWII.

"Aktions" by the Einsatzkommandos began in the Baltics
in Summer 1941. This was all pre-planned and there was no
serious attempt to organize any real exodus of Jews except
into holes in the ground.

Ninth Fort, Rumbula Forest, and the "Great Aktion" of December 1941 go to show that the real goal was to make
Europe "Judenrein" from the git-go.


51 posted on 05/12/2005 4:05:02 PM PDT by rahbert
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