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To: CHARLITE
I remember in the '80's, reading about protesters at UC Berkeley shouting "Hey hey, ho ho, Western Civ has got to go..." I remember wondering "what will be the long-term implications of this?" I guess I have my answer; I wonder if the malcontents who were doing the shouting had aggressive militant Islam in mind. Probably they were clueless.

I have to hand it to the Islamos, though. The way they are exploiting the non-judgemental, non-normative, diversity-worshipping zeitgeist of the west is elegant. In the same way as the design of a python's jaw is elegant.

(steely)

13 posted on 05/12/2005 1:11:20 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: Steely Tom
I wonder if the malcontents who were doing the shouting had aggressive militant Islam in mind. Probably they were clueless.

Not true, they know what they are doing. The left has been hand in hand with Islam for much of the last century and all of this. Hitler, the National Socialists Worker's Party, enjoyed the company of his fascist Muslims. The left is collectivist. And, so are the Muslims.

The world has two poles. One where people who value themselves live their lives as individuals. The other where people who feel inadequate come together under the pretense that someone will lead and take care of them. The collectivists are made up of two groups, the large dopey (literally) followers and the few scheming con artist leaders -- Clinton, Sharpton, Jackson, and so on.

Islam and the left have the same mode of operation. The leaders are usually little more than street corner gangsters looking for power from a mob. The Islamics have used this style since its start. They employ small bands of thugs who lead small street corner gang style mobs. It works against peaceful people not organized.

The left does the same thing. As a European invention, the left has been more effective at this game. They feel more confident that after they get the chains on a society, they can control the Muslims. They find their mobs in universities, union halls, and bureaucracies. Many of the so called secular left would just as soon run a mob with a rag wrapped around their head just to get control.

I fear that New Europe will be driven to reorganize in a more effective political-military structure. One option is a American style of government. I don't think they will adopt such. The other is a fascist style. I mean fascist in the original sense, a strong paternal leader. It will take such to get the job done of beating back Islam by necessarily killing a lot of them. Europe has done so in the past. I see no reason why the can't again.

The strength that Islam holds against societies not organized for war is the relentless attacks of small teams of gangsters. When they come up against an organized, disciplined army led by a strong leader, they get slaughtered. Their strength then becomes their weakness.

Alas, this army will have to kill a lot of them. Maybe, this time the conquering Infidels can liberate Mecca, well better yet, flatten it.

80 posted on 05/21/2005 3:30:25 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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