Officer kills armed man in wheelchair

Charlotte Observer ^ | Thu, May. 12, 2005 | GARY L. WRIGHT

[TalonDJ]

What the heck were they trying to 'negotiate'? Of course he hung up on them, he had nothing to talk to them about.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

That's what's hard to understand.

What is so hard to understand about suicide-by-cop?

The guy has no legs. His health is deteriorating by the day. He is alone.

Putting a bullet in his own brain would be a sin, but if he can get somebody else to do it, he's a victim.

The guy got exactly what he wanted, God rest his soul.

[American_Centurion]

Americans might get the idea that the cops authority can be questioned.... We certainly can't have THAT! happening now can we?

You're point is dead on target!

[jb6]

The police even backed off after they entered and he didn't shoot. It was the SWAT team that got the trophy.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I have 3 friends who are police officers.

That's not the question I asked you?

Do you think you are a United States Senator or something?

[Graycliff]

When responding to alarms, it's common to circle or survey before you respond. Keeps you from getting you ass shot, and gives you a better idea of what your facing.

Damn you really don't like Law Enforcement, do you?

[sandydipper]

What would have been wrong with the police going about their other duties and leaving the wheel chair guy alone?

Was he threatening anyone? - No. Did he say he was going to kill himself? So what - if he did. Is it OK for cops to kill you but not you yourself?? This stinks!!

[American_Centurion]

The guy got exactly what he wanted,

Helps murderers sleep well at night too.

[jb6]

He's not alone, his wife was in poland visiting relatives. He had friends, he was not a loner nor was his health an issue over all.

The guy got exactly what he wanted, God rest his soul.

I highly doubt that was what he wanted.

[TalonDJ]

Why that would be horrible! We might end up with dozens of law abiding citizens sitting in their houses with guns and no regard for police shouting orders at them. Why that might be the end of civilization as we know it!

[Graycliff]

Ruby ridge?

Whats that got to do with this.?

[trisham]

Putting a bullet in his own brain would be a sin, but if he can get somebody else to do it, he's a victim.

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Bingo.

[jb6]

I have no problem with law enforcement that follows the law, to include the Constitution. I am not a statist who considers that the police should be all powerful and to hell with private property, personal rights, etc. I support the policeman's charities, etc, I do not support murder by police.

[Old Mountain man]

This was completely avoidable. All they had to do was stay out of his home.

[TalonDJ]

When responding to alarms, it's common to circle or survey before you respond

And when you find out it is a law abiding man in a wheelchair with a gun is it common practice to kick the door in and blow him away?

[The Magical Mischief Tour]

Sure, lets jail all the firefighters, EMS-Paramedics and of course all the cops!!!

Cops are involved so this must be an unlawful maneuver, no warrant, no PC no nothing!!!

Jail’em all!!!

Exigent circumstances, what’s that…

So many armchair ultra conservatives are so quick to slam the police for making snap decisions, which the courts have historically upheld because the cops can only be held to the knowledge, which they had at the time the incident or decision, went down, not every little piece of evidence the investigators were able to gather after the fact using a microscope and extensive interviews.

Sure lets jail everyone involved, make it known to all the fire and EMS personnel you better be 1000000% damn sure you known 1000000000000000000000000% of all the facts before you break down that door, because you believe there is an emergency inside!!!

Oh and one more thing, if there is an emergency inside and you take too long to break down that door and someone dies the same crowd whose calling for your heads now will be calling for your heads then…

So my advice is to find another line of work.

The anti-authoritarian crowds need to be careful what they wish for cause they just might get it and they might not like what they get either.

I think it’s called unintended consequences.

Make theses types of jobs magnets for criminal and civil litigation and establish a precedence for jailing these folks (fire and EMS as well as cops) for things that they may not know absolutely know or actually have no way of knowing at the time and you’ll end up making those careers VERY undesirable for everyone.

Call 911 after you loved one has been involved in a bad traffic accident and it takes 90 minutes for fire to respond, 3 hours for EMS to respond and the cop has to come from the state capital because no one wants the job.

[konaice]

You kick in an innocent persons door and you get a gun pointed at you, is THAT hard to understand?

You point a gun a a cop you die. What part of "STUPID" don't you understant?

[Graycliff]

You raise you weapon at an officer, your going to get shot.
His decision.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I highly doubt that was what he wanted.

His behavior indicates that he did.

Guns are not toys, in case you were never told.

You never point a gun at anybody or anything you would not be willing to destroy.

By pointing a gun at the cops, the guy proved that he was willing to kill a cop.

I repeat: guns are not toys, and pointing a gun at someone is proof in itself that you would be willing to kill them.