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1 posted on 05/12/2005 8:52:20 AM PDT by Mark Noonan
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Its time to acknowledge that alot of whats viewed by rank & file republicans as cowardice, isn't.

Face it - many GOP politicians despise conservatives & hate their own party's stated principles. They've chosen the R because they couldn't win the office any other way.

Remember that the next time someone chides you for voting your conscience instead of the party's annointed one.

36 posted on 05/12/2005 9:36:30 AM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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anybody know Voinaloser's web site so a message can be sent?


38 posted on 05/12/2005 9:38:19 AM PDT by RaginRak
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Voinovich has always been like this. He gets away with it because the Ohio Republican Party is full of people like him, and the Democrats run people from the far, far left against him.


43 posted on 05/12/2005 9:54:05 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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Senator Voinovich, is like Trent Lott, Snowe, Hagel et al....He's (They've) grown accustom to the perks of the Senate...and Heaven forbid if the "Sainted (RINOs) Most Rightous Senators" were to lose the praise of the Liberal Senators' MSM.
45 posted on 05/12/2005 10:01:10 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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Voinovich has always struck me as a sort of a creep, but less creepy than some on the other side of the aisle. As of today, he's left-hand material. I also think he's either dirty or monomaniacal (or maybe a bit from either column); after reading his comments, I do not for a minute believe that this a conscience thing with him. IMHO, he's delivering... but for whom?


47 posted on 05/12/2005 10:01:36 AM PDT by niteowl77
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Voinovich is just trying to save face after his pathetic performance in the committee hearing a couple of weeks a good.


49 posted on 05/12/2005 10:06:39 AM PDT by Busywhiskers (If you are not fishin you're just fritterin away your life.)
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"but I've a long memory, and I shan't forget."

We have got to vote these traitors out of office!!! You are so RIGHT!

51 posted on 05/12/2005 10:11:02 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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In case anyone has anything to say to Voinovich, here is his DC office Number: (202) 224-3353.


53 posted on 05/12/2005 10:16:32 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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Can we say 'bribery?' That SOB has 'crook' written all over his face.


62 posted on 05/12/2005 10:44:43 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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John Bolton will be representing the USA to the world. Is there any reason to defame this man in public so as to make him less effective? There is only one. Voinovich wants to be lauded by Libs on the D.C. cocktail party circuit. He then can tell the Pubs he did not vote against Bolton. This is the same man who held up the vote despite not having been at the hearings.


63 posted on 05/12/2005 10:52:28 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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I never thought I'd be in the position of applauding Chuck Hagel for being a supportive Republican, and awarding someone other than Hagel today's Jerk Of The Day Award.


68 posted on 05/12/2005 11:40:41 AM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 (lurker since'01, member since 4/'04)--stop clogging me with pings!)
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Is Voinovitch an Ohio slang term for "Jeffords"?

Expect him to win the next "Profiles in Courage" award.

69 posted on 05/12/2005 11:43:56 AM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 (lurker since'01, member since 4/'04)--stop clogging me with pings!)
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I never liked the guy in the first place. One can only wonder what he would say about someone he doesn't claim to like.
73 posted on 05/12/2005 3:07:17 PM PDT by CandiM (“I haven’t seen anyone milk this much out of a bad boat ride since Gilligan” -- Dennis Miller)
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I hope Karl Rove pays him back - big time.


81 posted on 05/12/2005 3:36:59 PM PDT by veronica (CP = Jeffords Republicrats...)
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Panel Sends Bolton Nomination to Senate
May 12,2005
By BARRY SCHWEID

WASHINGTON (AP) - A divided Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Thursday sent the nomination of John Bolton to be U.N. ambassador to the full Senate. But it took the rare step of refusing to endorse the blunt- speaking conservative.

The move kept the contentious nomination alive, leaving its fate in the hands of the GOP-run Senate. By not recommending that senators approve Bolton's nomination, the committee delivered a slap at President Bush in one of the first big battles of his second term.

"It doesn't appear that Mr. Bolton has the confidence of the majority of this committee," said Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, the senior Democrat on the panel. "And I would suggest that it may be worth the president's interest to take note of that."

The panel acted after a pivotal Republican member, Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio, voiced opposition to the nomination, calling Bolton arrogant and bullying. Yet Voinovich broke a committee impasse by agreeing to let the full Senate vote rather than joining Democrats' effort to kill the nomination in committee.

All 10 Republicans voted to send the nomination to the floor. All eight Democrats voted no.

Bolton, 56, who is now the top arms control diplomat at the State Department, has strong ties among political conservatives both inside and outside the administration.

The panel delayed its vote for three weeks after four Republican members asked for more time to study accusations that Bolton bullied subordinates and exaggerated intelligence assessments.

Three of the four said they had decided to support Bolton, but Voinovich said he could not. "The United States can do better than John Bolton," Voinovich told the panel during a debate lasting over five hours.

The panel's Republican chairman, Richard Lugar of Indiana, declined to hold a vote on sending the nomination to the Senate with the committee's endorsement once it became clear that Voinovich's opposition would have caused a 9-9 split, with a majority needed to prevail.

Instead, he embraced Voinovich's suggestion to send the nomination to the floor without a recommendation. Committees usually endorse the nominees they send to the Senate for a vote.

Other Republicans fell in line behind Voinovich's suggestion.

Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., who earlier expressed misgivings about the nomination, told the panel he decided he had "enough confidence in this president to take him at his word, and take Mr. Bolton at his word."

But with Bolton short of enough votes for committee approval, Hagel announced he would support Voinovich's proposal to send the nomination to the floor with no recommendation.

Despite Voinovich's sharp criticism of Bolton, who now serves as undersecretary of state for arms control, the White House was clearly relieved that the Ohio senator had agreed to let the full Senate decide.

Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said the White House is now confident Bolton will be confirmed by the full Senate.

"We respect Sen. Voinovich's decision, but there are many people who agree with the president that John Bolton is the right person at the right time for this important position," he said.

Democrats have not ruled out using procedural delays to try killing Bolton's nomination in the full Senate. It would take the votes of 60 of the 100 senators to stop the delay.

Voinovich called Bolton "the poster child of what someone in the diplomatic corps should not be." He said Bolton would be fired if he was in the private sector.

"That being said, Mr. Chairman, I am not so arrogant to think that I should impose my judgment and perspective of the U.S. position in the world community on the rest of my colleagues," he added.

Voinovich told reporters he would vote against Bolton in the full Senate. Will Bolton win eventual confirmation? "I have every faith in my colleagues. No one really is excited about him. We'll see what happens," he said.

He said he hoped the full Senate, where Republicans hold a 55-45 majority, would reject the nomination.

"What message are we sending to the world community?" Voinovich asked.

Lugar defended the nomination, while conceding that "Secretary Bolton's actions were not always exemplary."

Bolton misjudged the actions of subordinates and sometimes clashed with superiors in his current role as the top arms-control diplomat at the State Department, Lugar said.

But weeks of intense Senate inquiry turned up no evidence that Bolton did anything that would disqualify him as Bush's choice for the United Nations job, Lugar said.

"His blunt style alienated some colleagues. But there is no evidence that he has broken laws or engaged in serious ethical misconduct," Lugar said.

Biden opposed sending the nomination to the floor without a recommendation. "I think we have undermined our authority and shirked our constitutional responsibility," Biden said.

Later, Biden told reporters he did not know if Bolton's vote could be stopped in the full Senate. "Would I have liked it better to have a 'no' vote? Yes," he said.

Committee Republicans and Democrats alternately praised and denounced Bolton's qualifications and direct manner.

"We are not electing Mr. Congeniality. We do not need Mr. Milquetoast," said Sen. George Allen, R-Va., arguing that Bolton would be an effective agent for change at the United Nations.

But Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, last year's Democratic presidential nominee, portrayed Bolton as a loose cannon whose pronouncements would prompt other diplomats to ask, "Who is he speaking for?"

85 posted on 05/12/2005 3:48:59 PM PDT by Paul Ross (United we stand, diversified we fall)
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