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You have no solutions, but congratulations on being part of the problem. Your views attract only a tiny (and declining) minority around here.

FR is a great place to vent - it would be nice to wish (or type) away all of our problems. The solution to the illegals is the guest worker program. Regardless of whether anyone at FR agrees with my opinion is beside the point - amnesty is the way it's going to go down.

So the only real issue open to FR denizens is whether they want to be part of the solution. The question to those interested in affecting public policy is what types of controls/assurances will we be able to implement as part of the amnesty program?

For example, sealing the border is an obvious (and visually appealing) solution; however, untold thousands fly in on visas and never leave. How are these recorded/blocked? Another example is employer fines - what types of ID should be required? What types of questions can be asked (without being sued under existing laws)?

There are lots of issues to be worked out. It will be interesting to see if FR mounts an effective means of participating in these policy decisions or just stews away ranting & raving.

"The solution to the illegals is the guest worker program. "

And what will the solution to the Guest Worker program be??????????????

Most illegals don't sign up
Employers will continue to hire illegals because guest workers will be subject to labor laws and too expensive
the currently unenforced immigration laws continue to be unenforced and now you've added another layer of unenforced guest worker laws! ! !

You know, you pro-guest worker bots have jumped the shark and aren't even believable there are so many holes in your theory. You are sort of like the Democrats, at this point their ideas are derisable, laughable, not just silly. nd they are dangerous too. If your plan fails and inundates America with even more illegals, what are you going to call for then? A Guest-Guest-Worker program? A white flag? A co-presidency with Vincente Fox? We ALREADY have an immigration policy, the problem is that it isn't being enforced. Now you want more crapola spread on top?

"The solution to the illegals is the guest worker program."

Again, your opinion. The only way a "guest worker" program is going to fly is if it contains all of the safeguards and enforcement measures previously posted.

"...amnesty is the way it's going to go down."

Add wishful thinking to your opinion. For that to happen means the GOP is ready to toss its conservative base over the side (30%+). No matter how much "hispandering" the White House and its co-conspirators do, that loss will be fatal to many political aspirations. Anyone supporting an amnesty, or a sham amnesty, can kiss his/her political career goodbye.

"The question to those interested in affecting public policy is what types of controls/assurances will we be able to implement as part of the amnesty program?"

No kind of controls/assurances will be an acceptable tradeoff for rewarding 20+ million law breakers with an amnesty.

"There are lots of issues to be worked out."

Most of which would not have been necessary had our Washington crapweasels not decided to ignore enforcement of our immigration laws.

"It will be interesting to see if FR mounts an effective means of participating in these policy decisions..."

What you see is what you get. It won't be pretty if the unindicted co-conspirators in Washington continue on their present course.

By the way, your comments come across somewhat similar to what one might anticipate from a political flack paid to beat the pro-illegal drums. And don't bother with the "I'm just an interested citizen" defense.

Here's the bottom line for you. FR is a conservative site for conservatives. Most of us, clearly a very substantial majority, believe strongly in: American sovereignty; protected, secure and controlled borders; and the preservation of American culture, customs, traditions and language. These are our values.

What are yours?