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To: lewislynn

who may not realize how high their income tax brackets are when calculated as tax exclusive

An income tax can't be calculated "tax exclusive".

Sure it can, you can calculate on the basis of whats left from government claiming its cut. Very easy formula to convert betweent the two systems.

Getting the tax-exclusive rate given the tax-inclusive rate

Te = Ti / (1 - Ti)

Where Te= Tax exclusive rate and Ti= Tax inclusive rate.

For example, the a 17% (tax-inclusive) flat tax has a tax-exclusive rate of 20.48%.
(0.1700 / (1.0000 - 0.1700) = 0.2048)

For the NRST as proposed by HR 25, the 23% inclusive rate comes out to 29.87%.
(0.2300 / (1.0000 - 0.2300) = 0.2987)

 

Other examples Comparing tax-inclusive and tax-exclusive rates

Inclusive Rate Description Exclusive Rate
4.76% Sample State Sales Tax --> 5.00%
10.00% <-- Penalty for IRA/401k Early Withdrawal 11.11%
15.00% <-- Marginal Income Tax 17.65%
15.00% <-- NRST (not including SS/Medicare) 17.65%
15.30% <-- Social Security/Medicare Payroll Tax 18.06%
17.00% <-- Flat Tax (not including SS/Medicare) 20.48%
20.00% <-- Capital Gains Tax 25.00%
23.00% <-- NRST (including SS/Medicare) 29.87%
28.00% <-- Marginal Income Tax 38.89%
32.30% <-- Flat Tax (including SS/Medicare) 47.71%
39.00% <-- Marginal Income Tax 63.93%
54.30% <-- Max Margin Income/Payroll tax rate 118.81%

Note that any tax-inclusive rate larger than 50% would have a tax-exclusive rate of over 100%. And you figure that tax-exclusive measures are a good basis for judging the actual effect of tax burdens relative to your resources to pay them? Pitiful.

222 posted on 05/14/2005 3:58:03 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: ancient_geezer
Sure it can, you can calculate on the basis of whats left from government claiming its cut.

No you can't. What you've already paid can't be a percentage of what you have left...unless you're using the fairtax math. Is that anything like the Million Man March math?

The tax isn't imposed "on the basis of whats left from government claiming its cut"...how can it?

Income tax has to be paid as a percentage FROM your income. It's not paid as a percentage in addition to your income...

A sales tax is in addition to the price (tax exclusive)

It's an "income tax" not a what's left over from your income after they take the tax tax...

Get it?

252 posted on 05/14/2005 7:36:47 AM PDT by lewislynn (My other car is an XC90 T6 AWD....)
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