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To: ancient_geezer
Point is, there is no purpose for an audit of the average person making purchases for consumption under a retail sales tax. Thus there are no provisions for such in the legislaton.

There are all sorts of reasons for the NRST police to come audit the average person. If an individual seems to be getting a lot of shipments overseas, they become suspected tax cheat. If an individual takes out too much cash, they become suspected tax cheat. If a person hires a lot of domestic help, they become a potential tax cheat. There are lots of circumstances where the NRST police might think some individual is liable for tax and are subject to an audit. Just a descriptive statement in the law that says collect and remit will do nothing to prevent the NRST police from knocking on your door. If the tax man suspects you owe tax, even as an individual, he will be coming. You are living in fantasy world if you don't think the sales tax man will come after consumers. You just need to look at how states are tracking down individuals who avoid cigarette taxes to see what will go on with an NRST tax.

206 posted on 05/13/2005 10:08:08 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Then just show the "NRST police" (your term) your receipts and you have no further obligation ... amd that's what the bill calls out in Sec. 101 under "EXCEPTION WHERE TAX PAID TO SELLER".

Also see Sec. 510.


207 posted on 05/13/2005 11:19:33 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Always Right

Both premesis are not correct. Shipments are not a taxable evemt and not monitpred nor have they any tax value. Withdrawing cash is likewise not a taxable event and not monitored.

Retail sales are what is being taxed not the other two items you mention. Again, if you are concerned - keep your receipts.


216 posted on 05/14/2005 12:28:25 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: Always Right

There are all sorts of reasons for the NRST police to come audit the average person.

No authority in the legislation to audit the individual only a business.

If an individual seems

You draw a lot of dead hypotheticals and strawmen, but not once have you shown authority for random audit of individual citizens in the legislation.

All you list may singly or in combination provide cause for a search warrant by a court with showing of sufficient cause, not an audit.

There are lots of circumstances where the NRST police might think some individual is liable for tax and are subject to an audit

There are lots of circumstance where police migh think some individual has committed any number of civil or criminal offenses, no audit, but plenty of search warrants, and court orders when sufficient cause exists for a cause of action.

Just a descriptive statement in the law that says collect and remit will do nothing to prevent the NRST police from knocking on your door.

True with search warrant in hand and probable cause, or subpenoe backed up by court order to produce records for a grand jury, or civil discovery action. Not an audit in the night.

If the tax man suspects you owe tax, even as an individual, he will be coming.

If the taxman under the NRST has probable cause and warrant is issued, r by subpoena under grand jury, or by court ordered discovery process in a civil action. But not on mere suspicion.

You are living in fantasy world if you don't think the sales tax man will come after consumers

I have yet to see an audit or even inquiry as to whether or not I paid a state retail sales tax on my goodies. Seen plenty of businesses audited as matter of course though which law expressly authorizes.

Then again with probable cause, and proper search warrant or court order in civil action much is possible for many reasons, taxes are only one.

You just need to look at how states are tracking down individuals who avoid cigarette taxes to see what will go on with an NRST tax.

Once again, I have yet to see an audit or even inquiry as to whether or not I paid a state retail sales tax on my goodies or smokes for that matter. Nor have I ever head of such a case targeting an individual lacking search warrant with sufficient cause for the search behind it. Not random audits on individual citizens' home finances.

221 posted on 05/14/2005 3:44:22 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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